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by Gator Guy
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:25 am
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......
Replies: 42
Views: 10884

Re: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......

mojo84 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:35 pm
ELB wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:22 pm
Soccerdad1995 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:20 pm ...

If someone is really this dangerous they need to be locked up immediately. ...
This. Focus on the person causing the problem, not the tools of folks not causing the problem.

And double-amen to the advice above from my Army and Air Force bretheren about the inclination for divorce lawyers to misuse any law for an edge. I too have seen military and non-military husbands shafted because the wife's lawyer made fatuous claims about the husband, and it is no secret that divorce courts tilt toward wives.
So, it's better to lock someone up without due process? Isn't locking them up more of a violation than temporarily removing one's guns?
I hope we all agree it's morally wrong and unconstitutional for somebody to be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" by the government. If so, then doing either to an innocent man is bad. Period.
by Gator Guy
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:48 am
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......
Replies: 42
Views: 10884

Re: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......

When government officials declare themselves enemies of the Constitution, the best defense is a good offense. Domestic enemies are much more dangerous to life and liberty than somebody in a sandbox on the other side of the world.
by Gator Guy
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:04 am
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......
Replies: 42
Views: 10884

Re: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......

TexasJohnBoy wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:41 am Due process means due process.
And shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed.

By and large, the people in power now don't respect the Constitution of the United States. They'll just say that some guns travel in interstate commerce, so that gives them the power to regulate all guns, even those you build in your home workshop. No different than the anticonstitutional decision in Wickard v. Filburn.
by Gator Guy
Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:23 pm
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......
Replies: 42
Views: 10884

Re: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......

MaduroBU wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:18 pmWhat we don't want is carte blanche for activists to cook up charges and roam around taking away guns. What are the penalties for making a false accusation in one of these proceedings? Those need to be in the bill, stiff, and guaranteed.
Public execution carried out by their victim or the victim's delegate.
by Gator Guy
Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......
Replies: 42
Views: 10884

Re: HB 131 - Here come "Extreme Risk Protection Orders"......

If somebody is too dangerous to be allowed to keep the guns they already own, they're too dangerous to be allowed access to knives, bats, cars, rope, etc.

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