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by austin-tatious
Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:51 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Road rager on Beltway 8
Replies: 84
Views: 11973

Re: Road rager on Beltway 8

DoubleJ wrote:
rdcrags wrote:
Also, if pressed, I will describe the "4-7 driving technique" for freeways with 3 lanes each way. It is also controversial. My wife says I should never be encouraged to expound, so it is your choice. I don't believe you have covered it.

Ralph
do tell.
Yes, I am encouraging you to expound. :clapping:
by austin-tatious
Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:08 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Road rager on Beltway 8
Replies: 84
Views: 11973

Re: Road rager on Beltway 8

bdickens wrote:I distinctly remember there being a 120KPH speed limit on much of the Autobahns.
There were speed limits around major cities (such as Frankfort, Hamburg, Munich, Berlin, etc.) when I was there. However, once outside major population centers, there were none.
by austin-tatious
Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:57 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Road rager on Beltway 8
Replies: 84
Views: 11973

Re: Road rager on Beltway 8

flb_78 wrote:Looks like all that specialized high intensity training in Germany....


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Training isn't the answer to making people better drivers, it's when folks finally realize that the world doesn't revolve around them.
While I agree that driver's attitudes are crucial, training is important and the training we are talking about is staying to the right and using the left lane(s) for passing.

Regardless of the training issue, the courtesy of the German drivers was excellent when I was on the autobahn whether the traffic was bumper to bumper stop-and-go or wide open light traffic at average speeds of 180 kph (about 114 mph).
by austin-tatious
Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:02 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Road rager on Beltway 8
Replies: 84
Views: 11973

Re: Road rager on Beltway 8

Purplehood wrote:
austin-tatious wrote:
dicion wrote: It's hard to imagine, because it's not done here, but highways where everyone follows the 'move right when not passing' rule, are actually Very pleasant, and easy to drive on, with minimal lane changing required by all parties. You don't have to worry about people zooming up on your right, or people cutting you off, you know that all passing is done on the left, and no-one rides on your rear as you're passing, because they know you're going to move over as soon as you can after the pass. They don't feel any need to TELL you to move over, because it's second nature on these roads.
:iagree: :iagree:
I have driven the autobahn in Germany twice now. What dicion describes is what they do there. Each time was over 1,000 miles for a one week's visit. Both times were marvelous experiences of courteous and efficient drivers.

But back to the topic! Instead of totally ignoring the road rager, What do you think of a smiling eye-contact and nod to them at first encounter, then back off while ignoring them from that point so they can go on their way?
I watched an interesting program on traffic enforcement regarding the Autobahn. From what I gathered, there is a high-degree of training of drivers regarding the rules of the road. I got the impression that law enforcement is primarily concerned with catching tail-gaters (in the sense of keeping proper distance between automobiles at any speed and in every lane, not just the left) and erratic drivers.
We really really should require such training for Texas and the US, IMNSHO*.

*In my not so humble opinion.
by austin-tatious
Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:06 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Road rager on Beltway 8
Replies: 84
Views: 11973

Re: Road rager on Beltway 8

dicion wrote: It's hard to imagine, because it's not done here, but highways where everyone follows the 'move right when not passing' rule, are actually Very pleasant, and easy to drive on, with minimal lane changing required by all parties. You don't have to worry about people zooming up on your right, or people cutting you off, you know that all passing is done on the left, and no-one rides on your rear as you're passing, because they know you're going to move over as soon as you can after the pass. They don't feel any need to TELL you to move over, because it's second nature on these roads.
:iagree: :iagree:
I have driven the autobahn in Germany twice now. What dicion describes is what they do there. Each time was over 1,000 miles for a one week's visit. Both times were marvelous experiences of courteous and efficient drivers.

But back to the topic! Instead of totally ignoring the road rager, What do you think of a smiling eye-contact and nod to them at first encounter, then back off while ignoring them from that point so they can go on their way?
by austin-tatious
Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:41 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Road rager on Beltway 8
Replies: 84
Views: 11973

Trying to get back on topic.

I've often wondered if acknowledging the presence of the rager with a smile and nod in their direction, then steadfastly not looking at them while doing what you can to let them get ahead would calm things down quicker than simply ignoring them. Your thoughts?

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