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by boomerang
Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Replies: 358
Views: 63794

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09

Hos wrote:I wonder why there were no issues the first 1/2 of the fair and now they changed the rules on us? Guns will always be a "hot button" topic so even if there was 1 incident with someone leaving their gun on a ride it's 1 time too many
What if it was a cop? Are the gate clerks recording their info? How about celebrity or political bodyguards?
by boomerang
Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Replies: 358
Views: 63794

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09

jamullinstx wrote:In this case, however, the issue is that a prohibition on the government is circumvented by a private entity through the lease.
The law says
It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
It clearly says "owned or leased" not "owned and leased" so if it's not prohibited under Section 46.03 or 46.035
it's obvious a 30.06 prohibition doesn't apply if
(
the property is owned by a governmental entity and leased by a private entity
or
the property is owned by a private entity and leased by a governmental entity
or
the property is owned by one governmental entity and leased by a different governmental entity
)
by boomerang
Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Replies: 358
Views: 63794

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09

srothstein wrote:I agree that the intent of the law was to not allow CHL's to be barred. But, as a general rule, the intent of the law is only looked at by a court when the written law is unclear. The second general rule for our law is that anything not forbidden is permitted. The law forbids denying a person entry on the basis of their being armed if it is government property and the person has a CHL. We agree on this. Where I think we disagree is on the way around the law. There is nothing forbidding the requirement for the entry to be logged, and many places log all entries. You are required to sign in at almost every state office in Austin, as one example, unless it is a customer service window. There is nothing forbidding the denial of entry for a person who refuses to log in.
I can't find any law requiring someone to display their CHL to anyone but a peace officer or magistrate, nor any law prohibiting someone from refusing to display their CHL to the gate attendant. Whereas anything not forbidden is permitted, we're permitted to refuse to display a CHL to a gate attendant.

If he purchased a ticket for entry, on what basis are they denying entry? Because he had a concealed handgun.
by boomerang
Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:12 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Replies: 358
Views: 63794

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09

The OP was prepared to display his CHL to "a magistrate or a peace officer" to enter. He was even willing to display his CHL to the gate attendant and the private security staff. He objected to having his personal information recorded by the private security gate attendant.

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