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Keep in mind the actions of Patriot Samuel Whittimore during the British retreat from Concord...

Aged Menotomy resident Samuel Whittemore killed three regulars before he was attacked by a British contingent and left for dead. (He recovered from his wounds and later died in 1793 at age 98.)

Beware the old man in a world where men die young...

Jeff B.

This is and has been a great discussion thread. The most impressive part has been the method and tone off our exchanges. On many boards, this discussion would have degenerated into a flame war and mud slinging.

Not here, in large part due to the example set by the proprietor of this virtual water cooler.

Jeff B.

Papa_Tiger wrote:

Jeff B. wrote:A very timely post...

"...and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. "

We are not bound to the federal leviathan. Those who profit from its existence, of course maintain that we are...

Jeff B.

Ahh but we are. The conclusion of the War of Northern Aggression and Texas v. White settled that. Once a State has entered the union, it is no longer an independent state and cannot dissolve the bonds of said union peacefully or through force. Since the Constitution states that it and Federal Law is "the supreme law of the land", once in, the formerly free state must now be subject and no longer wholly free.

You are correct...

For now. Nothing is ever settled if there are those who don't accept the prevailing or imposed view.

It's conceivable that the "secession" that everybody usually associates with the South or various parts of the West/NorthWest, could come from a surprise movement from someplace like California, from a desire to get away from the reactionary and non enlightened States of the interior.

If that was to come to pass I surely wouldn't stand ion their way.

Jeff B.

A very timely post...

"...and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. "

We are not bound to the federal leviathan. Those who profit from its existence, of course maintain that we are...

Jeff B.