Interesting counterpoint to her statement is that the whole thing about Trump trying to grab the steering wheel of the limo to turn it around and head to the capitol building is pure bunk. "The Beast 2," Trump's limo, was a Cadillac that weighed roughly 20,000 pounds and was 18 feet long or a bit longer. Trump did not ride shotgun in the driver's compartment. The president rode at the rear of the vehicle, and secret service agents typically sat with their back against the driver's compartment. Trump would have had to leave his seat, cross over 8 feet of space, climb over secret service agents, and then literally climb part way through the window of the driver's compartment and reach around the driver himself to even touch the steering wheel.
Yeah. Like that happened.
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- Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:15 am
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- Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:18 pm
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I hear everyone one of them was armed with an AR-16 and bazookas and wore completely bulletproof full-body suits. And didn't they kill, like, over 200 people?philip964 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:14 pm https://news.yahoo.com/conspiracy-theor ... 51733.html
Conspiracy theories paint a fraudulent reality of what really happened as murderers anarchists and Trump supporters, burned, looted and destroyed the Capitol
on January 6th.
Glad to see Yahoo end the year with more accurate news.
</sarcasm>
- Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:11 pm
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The D.C. Capitol Police welcome their first emotional support animal as the newest officer on their roster:
Trained seeing eye dog finds job comforting Capitol Police officers suffering in riot's aftermath
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emotional- ... ry-6-riot/
Thank goodness for Lila the Labrador. The CBS article refers to her as a black lab, which I find racist and think CBS should issue a public apology. But at least the Capitol Police now have an additional means to help alleviate the life-changing, disabling stress and PTSD following January 6. It must have been far, far worse than military service in Afghanistan.
Trained seeing eye dog finds job comforting Capitol Police officers suffering in riot's aftermath
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emotional- ... ry-6-riot/
The 3-year-old canine has had a lot of work to do after the January 6 riot. More than 150 Capitol Police officers and D.C. Metropolitan Police Department officers were injured during the violent attack. Since then, more than 70 officers have left the Capitol Police and four officers who responded to the attack died by apparent suicide.
Thank goodness for Lila the Labrador. The CBS article refers to her as a black lab, which I find racist and think CBS should issue a public apology. But at least the Capitol Police now have an additional means to help alleviate the life-changing, disabling stress and PTSD following January 6. It must have been far, far worse than military service in Afghanistan.
- Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:43 am
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Speaking of this Saturday, September 18, from the Military Times:
Capitol Police request National Guard support for Sept. 18 rally backing Jan. 6 rioters
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... 6-rioters/
Capitol Police request National Guard support for Sept. 18 rally backing Jan. 6 rioters
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... 6-rioters/
The Capitol Police have requested a military presence in their planning for the protest, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters on Wednesday. “I’m not going to detail the specific request, as is typical ... what I can tell you is, that it will follow the same process that all requests for assistance of the department, when it comes from an outside agency, go through,” Kirby said.
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In anticipation of a similar crowd to that which descended on the Capitol Jan. 6, protective fencing will go up around the Capitol complex, identical to that which was erected on Jan. 7 and stayed up through the spring.
- Mon May 17, 2021 1:10 pm
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Lawmakers propose $200 million for new Guard quick reaction force to aid Capitol security
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... -security/
We have 100 members of the Senate and 435 in the House of Representatives, for a total of 535 people. At $1.9 billion of taxpayers' dollars, that's $3,551,402 per person. This doesn't count aides and pages and administrative assistants, of course. So maybe it comes in at a little less than $1 million per full-time employee. How much did you spend last year on additional security hardening for your home or business?
The capitol complex is a group of 20 buildings; Senate chambers are in the north wing and chambers for the House of Representatives and the offices of Congressional leaders are in the south wing. Each chamber has a sergeant at arms who serves as the chief law enforcement officer.
The capitol complex already has its own, dedicated police force. The U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) are charged with protecting Congress' members, employees, visitors, and all facilities. The USCP has about 2,100 sworn law enforcement officers plus another 200 or so civilian employees. Congress recently approved an increase to the USCP's budget, which increase was already a done deal and not included in the new $1.9 billion package. Its annual budget was increased from $462 million to $516 million. Guess who pays for that, too.
The annual budget of the Dallas Police Department is $509 million, and that cuts police overtime by $7 million. That budget covers 3,640 sworn officers and 556 civilians for a total of 4,196. Dallas proper covers 383.4 square miles (245,376 acres) and a population of over 1.3 million. So Dallas's budget breaks down as: $121,306 per employee; $392 per capita served; and $2,074 per acre of area policed.
The Houston Police Department's 2020 budget was $837 million. HPD has 5,256 sworn officers and 976 civilian employees for a total of 6,232. Houston proper covers 669 square miles (428,160 acres) and a population of over 2.3 million. So Houston's budget breakdown is: $134,307 per employee; $364 per capita served; and $1,955 per acre of area policed.
Yet the USCP can't do its job and is so underfunded that we have to spend $1.9 billion to shore up the inadequacies? So let's defund all police agencies across the country except the agency that protects out congress critters? And let's build fancy new walls around the 4 acres of the capitol complex while immediately stopping the Trump wall and opening up our southern borders to an illegal immigration crisis the numbers of which we've never seen before? Immigration agents caught almost 179,000 people trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border last month...and it's anybody's guess as to how many crossed without being caught. Compared to arrests in April 2020 under Trump, border arrests last month were up over 1,000%...that's not a typo. The number of unaccompanied minors taken into custody in April was 17,171; in March it hit an all-time record high of 18,960.
Bottom line: Democrats want as many new voters as they can cram into the country (and of course any new legislation that seeks to simply define extant minimal voter identification is labeled with outrage as "voter suppression"); they absolutely do not care about your personal safety or that of your family; but they are very willing to spend quite literally billions of dollars of your tax money to help help protect themselves from the plebeians and rabble.
Happy 2021 national tax day, everyone.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... -security/
So lemme get this straight. We, the taxpayers, are paying over $520 million for new fencing (and other physical security measures) to provide extra security to the capitol grounds and our congress critters because a bunch of unarmed people broke in (well, they did find two handguns carried in DC without a permit and one spear). We've also already spent almost $520 million since last January to keep the National Guard at the capitol grounds to protect our congress critters. And now we'll pay $200 million to establish a new quick reaction force to protect our congress critters. That's around $1.6 billion, so there's another $300 million in there somewhere.The District of Columbia Air National Guard would receive $200 million to set up a quick reaction force of service members prepared to respond to any violence or threats on Capitol Hill under a $1.9 billion security supplemental unveiled by House leaders on Friday. [The $1.9 billion package] also includes nearly $521 million for unanticipated pay and operations cost for the still-ongoing Guard deployment to protect Congress in the wake of the attack on the Capitol building in January.
Those reimbursement costs nearly match the amount of money in the measure for future grounds security projects around the Capitol complex, to include retractable fencing designed to prevent a large surge of crowds onto the grounds during future protests or events.
We have 100 members of the Senate and 435 in the House of Representatives, for a total of 535 people. At $1.9 billion of taxpayers' dollars, that's $3,551,402 per person. This doesn't count aides and pages and administrative assistants, of course. So maybe it comes in at a little less than $1 million per full-time employee. How much did you spend last year on additional security hardening for your home or business?
The capitol complex is a group of 20 buildings; Senate chambers are in the north wing and chambers for the House of Representatives and the offices of Congressional leaders are in the south wing. Each chamber has a sergeant at arms who serves as the chief law enforcement officer.
The capitol complex already has its own, dedicated police force. The U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) are charged with protecting Congress' members, employees, visitors, and all facilities. The USCP has about 2,100 sworn law enforcement officers plus another 200 or so civilian employees. Congress recently approved an increase to the USCP's budget, which increase was already a done deal and not included in the new $1.9 billion package. Its annual budget was increased from $462 million to $516 million. Guess who pays for that, too.
The entire grounds of the capitol complex covers 175,170 square feet, or 4.02 acres...or 0.00628 square miles. Let's be conservative and say there are as many as 10,000 people working at or visiting the capitol grounds at any given time, and that the U.S. Capitol Police have a total of 2,400 employees. Their $516 million annual budget equates to $215,000 per employee; $51,600 per capita served; and $129 million per acre of area policed.About the 2015 Congressional hearing following a string of embarrassing incidents on the part of the USCP, former congressman Richard B. Nugent (R-Fla.), a retired county sheriff wrote: "What that hearing really showed was the ineptness in the organizational hierarchy, the inability to get a handle on the agency, their lack of transparency and accountability to anybody. If you let things like that go, there’s larger questions to be asked — what else are you sweeping under the rug or not paying attention to?"
The annual budget of the Dallas Police Department is $509 million, and that cuts police overtime by $7 million. That budget covers 3,640 sworn officers and 556 civilians for a total of 4,196. Dallas proper covers 383.4 square miles (245,376 acres) and a population of over 1.3 million. So Dallas's budget breaks down as: $121,306 per employee; $392 per capita served; and $2,074 per acre of area policed.
The Houston Police Department's 2020 budget was $837 million. HPD has 5,256 sworn officers and 976 civilian employees for a total of 6,232. Houston proper covers 669 square miles (428,160 acres) and a population of over 2.3 million. So Houston's budget breakdown is: $134,307 per employee; $364 per capita served; and $1,955 per acre of area policed.
Yet the USCP can't do its job and is so underfunded that we have to spend $1.9 billion to shore up the inadequacies? So let's defund all police agencies across the country except the agency that protects out congress critters? And let's build fancy new walls around the 4 acres of the capitol complex while immediately stopping the Trump wall and opening up our southern borders to an illegal immigration crisis the numbers of which we've never seen before? Immigration agents caught almost 179,000 people trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border last month...and it's anybody's guess as to how many crossed without being caught. Compared to arrests in April 2020 under Trump, border arrests last month were up over 1,000%...that's not a typo. The number of unaccompanied minors taken into custody in April was 17,171; in March it hit an all-time record high of 18,960.
Bottom line: Democrats want as many new voters as they can cram into the country (and of course any new legislation that seeks to simply define extant minimal voter identification is labeled with outrage as "voter suppression"); they absolutely do not care about your personal safety or that of your family; but they are very willing to spend quite literally billions of dollars of your tax money to help help protect themselves from the plebeians and rabble.
Happy 2021 national tax day, everyone.
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:04 pm
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At least 100 more to be charged in Capitol attack investigation, DOJ expects
By Alexander Mallin, ABC News
https://abc13.com/at-least-100-more-to- ... /10413987/
By Alexander Mallin, ABC News
https://abc13.com/at-least-100-more-to- ... /10413987/
A Justice Department official said earlier this week approximately 316 individuals have been charged but the department has still only unsealed roughly 290 cases as of Friday -- meaning multiple cases remain sealed as agents try and track down individuals to arrest them.
"Over 300 individuals have been charged in connection with the Capitol Attack. The investigation continues and the government expects that at least one hundred additional individuals will be charged."
- Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:56 am
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Oh, Steve, I'm certain that, this time, your profiling is off-base. I mean, after all, Trump--as the law and order candidate and no-nonsense-on-crime president--would obviously appeal to Shane Leedon Jenkins:srothstein wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:55 pm I realize I am profiling, but he doesn't strike me as a Trump supporter or conservative. But the FBI says there is no evidence of any members of Antifa participating in the riot. Since we all know the FBI is always right, I guess my profiling is wrong.
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Name: JENKINS,SHANE L
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Last incarceration facility: Coffield. Parole Eligibility Date: 2014-03-22. Projected Release Date: 2019-12-29. Obviously a fine, upstanding Republican because so many user comments on the news websites are pointing to him as the prime example of a Trump supporter.
- Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:51 am
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I keep trying. I'm stubborn...but maybe I'm just stupid, too.
Had a post-freeze phone conversation with a left-leaning friend yesterday, and he and I had long ago agreed that we simply can't talk politics. But somehow somewhere the phrase "armed insurrection" at the capitol on January 6 got dropped into the conversation. I said that 4 handguns and one "prohibited weapon" (that presumably being the ridiculous "QAnon Shaman" who had an American flag tied to a spear) were recovered from the people who breached the capitol building. That 4 handguns not only don't constitute an armed insurrection in anybody's imagination, but that in most states that would more accurately just be "the middle left-hand shelf of the gun safe."
He said I was nuts and asked me if I hadn't seen all the news stories showing rioters waving guns around as they breached the capitol. I told him to send me links to some of those news videos. Haven't heard back from him.
Sigh. But this is what we face. Perception, impressions, and assumptions among the honest, and agenda-driven malfeasance among the...less honest. You can't argue that with facts. In his mind, he very clearly remembers scores of men carrying "assault rifles" as they broke into the capital building, holding Capitol Police officers at gunpoint. He remembers it like he was there to witness it himself.
And when I asked him if he also remembers "protestors" carrying AK-47s at several BLM "protests" last spring and summer and CHAZ "warlord" Raz Simone handing out guns to minors in Seattle after the Capitol Hill district was declared a sovereign country independent U.S. law...and, no; he didn't remember any of that.
Had a post-freeze phone conversation with a left-leaning friend yesterday, and he and I had long ago agreed that we simply can't talk politics. But somehow somewhere the phrase "armed insurrection" at the capitol on January 6 got dropped into the conversation. I said that 4 handguns and one "prohibited weapon" (that presumably being the ridiculous "QAnon Shaman" who had an American flag tied to a spear) were recovered from the people who breached the capitol building. That 4 handguns not only don't constitute an armed insurrection in anybody's imagination, but that in most states that would more accurately just be "the middle left-hand shelf of the gun safe."
He said I was nuts and asked me if I hadn't seen all the news stories showing rioters waving guns around as they breached the capitol. I told him to send me links to some of those news videos. Haven't heard back from him.
Sigh. But this is what we face. Perception, impressions, and assumptions among the honest, and agenda-driven malfeasance among the...less honest. You can't argue that with facts. In his mind, he very clearly remembers scores of men carrying "assault rifles" as they broke into the capital building, holding Capitol Police officers at gunpoint. He remembers it like he was there to witness it himself.
And when I asked him if he also remembers "protestors" carrying AK-47s at several BLM "protests" last spring and summer and CHAZ "warlord" Raz Simone handing out guns to minors in Seattle after the Capitol Hill district was declared a sovereign country independent U.S. law...and, no; he didn't remember any of that.