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by Rafe
Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:47 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Why did the Secret Service anti sniper wait until the sniper fired to kill him? Needed permission?Rules of engagement? B
Replies: 27
Views: 6217

Re: Why did the Secret Service anti sniper wait until the sniper fired to kill him? Needed permission?Rules of engagemen

Mike S wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:25 pm He also stated emphatically that the sniper should have used suppressive fire to disrupt the shooter in the 3 second delay from the initial volley & the final 5 shots. Suppressive fire isnt appropriate for this setting, and it's WAY different than delivering precision fire to shut down the threat. And suppressive fire when other LEOs are (or we're supposed to be...) inside the target building? Suppressive fire when there's non-threat civilians downrange? Again, this is rubbish. And he ends his post with the implication that perhaps the counter sniper delayed his response on purpose...

I've never heard of "HealthRanger" before, and based on this one example I'd critically question anything else he says.
Where's the dang "like" button? ;-)
by Rafe
Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:31 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Why did the Secret Service anti sniper wait until the sniper fired to kill him? Needed permission?Rules of engagement? B
Replies: 27
Views: 6217

Re: Why did the Secret Service anti sniper wait until the sniper fired to kill him? Needed permission?Rules of engagemen

philip964 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:14 am So a 4” dia bullseye at 150 yards is a low percentage shot.

Attachment suggests quite a delay in counter fire. Why?
Google ain't helpin' me find any specifics, but if I recall correctly, while Crooks was about 150 yards from Trump the distance from the successful counter-sniper to Crooks was a bit over double that, more on the order of 350-400 yards. If that's the case, then I'd say that a single-shot kill under kinetic conditions with only a portion of the head visible would qualify as a difficult shot.

Me, I can shoot single ragged holes in a target all day long. At a distance of about 3 feet... :biggrinjester:

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