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by Rafe
Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Traveling to states up north.
Replies: 16
Views: 6667

Re: Traveling to states up north.

jmorris wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:38 am My first plan would have been to not pick up the luggage, counting on it making the trip without me. Second would have been to pick it up,, rent a vehicle and drive on to Maine. I think it's obvious that he was never warned about checking in in certain states. I talk about that in my classes.
I wonder what the personal liabilities would be if that piece of luggage was left at the carousel, with a firearm legally inside it, but the bag didn't make it to the destination and was eventually stolen from the maze of what must be the LaGuardia lost luggage area (remember the crate with the Ark of the Covenant in it at the end of the first Indiana Jones movie ;-) ), and was then used in commission of a violent crime in New York City. Maybe no ultimate liability, but I'll bet there'd still be some 'splainin' to do. Plus a lost gun. But lost in NY is worse than lost in a Texas boating accident.

The car rental sounds like maybe the best option, but I assume you'd need to be on absolute best behavior and obey all traffic regulations in a strange state (in more ways than one) with strange-to-you geography and streets and signs. Might get out of having to go before an ADA or a magistrate, but if you get pulled over for a traffic violation there could still be a lot of 'splainin' to do about how/why you're in a NY rental car with NY plates and in possession of an "illegal" firearm. Especially if the gendarme sees the hated Texas driver's license and asks if you have any guns in the car

Absolute best plan: entirely avoid those certain states. :shock: Before I stopped traveling much for work back around 2008, I always left the EDC at home (unless it was a drive to a friendly neighbor state, which it seldom was). But as I've gotten older I've become less personally inclined to disarm. Just ask how Bob Lee feels about having extended his business trip from Miami to San Francisco a couple of days in order to visit friends in an upscale neighborhood. Not sure nowadays what it would take to get me to take a plane into any of those "certain states" or DC. Now, with the recent reliability of timely air travel and such low probabilities of flight cancellations <cough cough> y'all have me concerned about the notion of even having to fly over one of those states.
by Rafe
Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Traveling to states up north.
Replies: 16
Views: 6667

Re: Traveling to states up north.

The stuff of nightmares. The guy in howdy's story literally had no reasonable recourse, did he? In that beyond-his-control disastrous event of a reroute to LaGuardia, he couldn't remove the gun from his checked luggage and put in a rental locker. The result would have been the same: he got his luggage and stayed in New York. Presumably, the airline wouldn't have put the checked luggage on a different flight and let it continue on to Maine without its passenger, and if that happened it may very well have been illegal--in two different ways--for a friend in Maine to retrieve the luggage for him.

Thank goodness I haven't had to worry about something like that, but does anybody know if the TSA have any provision for it? Can you go them, explain the circumstances, and have them lock-up the firearm and keep it secure until resumption of travel the next day? Lock-up the whole piece of luggage at the airport with TSA or the airline and stop by Walgreens on the way to the hotel for a toothbrush and a comb? Immediately check the luggage onto tomorrow's flight and sleep at the airport? :headscratch

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