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by WildRose
Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum
Replies: 44
Views: 12092

Re: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum

K.Mooneyham wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:13 pm Okay, I'm going to ask a combined question, and then belabor what should be the obvious thing. Is the entirety of the complex fenced in, and is it posted with properly sized and worded 30.06 and 30.07 signs? If it is not, then the only people being stopped from legally carrying are tenants. IF the complex is fenced and posted properly, that still doesn't keep out anyone who simply decides to break the law. People who put that stuff into rental agreements are either 100% ignorant, or refuse to face reality, or are making a political statement. In any case, as much hassle as it may be, I'd be looking for another place to live.

BTW, I am not starting a debate on property vs premises, or anything else of the sort.
Mostly they are doing it purely as a liability waiver, secondarily in cases where the powers that be are anti gun.
by WildRose
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum
Replies: 44
Views: 12092

Re: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum

mojo84 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:02 pm
WildRose wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:48 pm
BBYC wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:06 pm
Soccerdad1995 wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:04 pm As noted above, VESP's are exempted, you are also possibly exempted unless it can be proven that you were not going between your apartment and your vehicle, etc. Worst case, you are looking at a potential $200 fine.
Maybe exempt from the fine but not exempt from eviction.
I don't think they'd likely be successful in an eviction case here. There's no legal grounds for it. It would be up to the landlord to put such stipulations in the contract and then prove you broke the contract and that's only going to fly if the judge does not accept that since it's your legal domicile your rights to keep and bear is not intact.
The legal grounds would be breach of the lease agreement which is breach of contract. The common areas and office are not part of his domicile. If he agrees to something in his contract, such as not carrying in the common areas or office, I doubt the judge would not hold him to the lease he agreed to.
true but unless the wording is such that he can only lawfully carry directly along the shortest path to and from his apartment and car they would have to prove first that he was not en route too or from.

"I had to stop by the office for a minute as I headed out to work".

"I had to stop and speak to Jim, Mary and Todd on the way".

Now if you got caught hanging out at the pool or laundry room then he'd be in trouble.

I'd say keep it concealed, use common sense and don't make it an issue and there's little likelihood of it ever becoming one.
by WildRose
Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum
Replies: 44
Views: 12092

Re: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum

BBYC wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:06 pm
Soccerdad1995 wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:04 pm As noted above, VESP's are exempted, you are also possibly exempted unless it can be proven that you were not going between your apartment and your vehicle, etc. Worst case, you are looking at a potential $200 fine.
Maybe exempt from the fine but not exempt from eviction.
I don't think they'd likely be successful in an eviction case here. There's no legal grounds for it. It would be up to the landlord to put such stipulations in the contract and then prove you broke the contract and that's only going to fly if the judge does not accept that since it's your legal domicile your rights to keep and bear is not intact.
by WildRose
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:52 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum
Replies: 44
Views: 12092

Re: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum

TomS wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:56 pm If I lived in an apartment, I’d be worried about what the knucklehead with a gun is doing on the other side of my apartment wall, ceiling or floor is doing not the public spaces.
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by WildRose
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum
Replies: 44
Views: 12092

Re: Apartment Lease Contract Handgun Addendum

proudpirate wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:30 pm This is the addendum the office used. They check marked Option 1 and Option 2 on the addendum. What do y'all think?
The way I read it, it is not legal notice and unless they post proper 06-07 signs on the property they would have no cause of action.

It isn't worth the paper it's written on.

About the only way they could post you as written is if you were caught carrying in a common area like the laundry room or office.

If you stop at your neighbor's home en route to or from your vehicle they would have no cause of action because it doesn't express specifically "directly to or from".

If if were me and you are concerned I'd just keep it concealed. At worst you're looking at a 200.00 violation that has no more bearing on your record than a traffic ticket.

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