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by Dragonfighter
Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:02 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Changed Any Minds?
Replies: 22
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Re: Changed Any Minds?

Answer to the OP's question. Directly, yes.

I entered into a conversation with a DPS trooper who thought that only cops needed to carry guns. It was about a 20 minute and very civil conversation. The epiphany for him was when I asked him if he was dangerous, violent and unsafe in handling a gun before he became a trooper or was he always a responsible, honorable and law abiding citizen. He paused and then answered that he was not different now as he was before. I then asked him the obverse of that question. If someone was dangerous, violent or unsafe in handling a gun, would they magically change when they pinned on the badge? He admitted that would not change them. I then asked if there was nothing magical about a badge that would make a person MORE law abiding, what about not having a badge makes a person LESS law abiding. He actually told me I had changed his entire attitude towards armed citizens.

A second and less direct was with the vociferous discussion that happened at the station after Sandy Hook and the beginnings of the national dialog about arming teachers. Several, even some of the "pro gun" crowd, were arguing that magazine limits and the types (I.E. military style) of operation
should be regulated. I stayed out of it until directly asked about why arming teachers would be a solution. I stood up and started with reiterating how long it takes, when WE (the FD) calls for police code 3 how long it takes for the first unit to get there; I asked what the options were until they got there. Then I said, "suppose I have a magazine limited to ten rounds, after all I obeyed the law. I walk into the station here and start shooting firemen." I walked around going "bang" to each member, very casually. Stopping every ten "rounds" to drop the imaginary magazine, load another and drop the slide. After I had "shot" everyone five times (50 "rounds"), I looked at the clock and said, "Oh, we are two minutes in. Has anyone arrived? Made entry?" I saw some lights come on. Whether there were any paradigm shifts I can't say.

Charles is right, the light of reason is illuminating the lies of the left. One of my avocations is Biblical apologetics. I had an old preacher tell me once, "remember, you are not debating to change the minds of those that oppose you, you are debating for those that are listening." Yes, keep up the good fight putting forth sound and well reasoned arguments.

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