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by Dragonfighter
Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:45 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Two Supreme Court decisions the antis don't want you to see
Replies: 23
Views: 3503

Re: Two Supreme Court decisions the antis don't want you to

Jumping Frog wrote:
Dragonfighter wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:<SNIP> I'd like to point out that anyone promoting the idea of shooting police officers trying to make an arrest is a clear non-starter in my book. The time to discuss whether an arrest was legal or not is in the courtroom, not out there facing a gun muzzle.

I suppose one could theoretically argue about a hypothetical corrupt police squad where the person truly thinks they will be killed or quietly "disappear" before ever making it to jail, but we are still the United States, not the cartel-owned and corrupt Mexico. In the United States, 99.9999999999999% of arrests should be battled in the courtroom.
Maybe the time to argue is in the undisclosed location where you are being held without charges and indefinitely.
I think that falls under the 'quietly "disappear"' portion of my statement.

I am not naive and realize we could see those days. But today, at least, even the ones being held under the "Patriot" Act are still a miniscule percentage of total arrests.
True but the legal mechanism is in place and the DHS and IRS are stockpiling weapons and ammo. FWIW, a miniscule percentage of "quietly disappearing" is too grave to ignore. Waiting until you have been subdued to "argue" a false arrest may be waiting too long. Depends on the charges though, I guess.

FWIW, I don't fear the patriot act as much as the NDAA.
by Dragonfighter
Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:55 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Two Supreme Court decisions the antis don't want you to see
Replies: 23
Views: 3503

Re: Two Supreme Court decisions the antis don't want you to

Jumping Frog wrote:<SNIP> I'd like to point out that anyone promoting the idea of shooting police officers trying to make an arrest is a clear non-starter in my book. The time to discuss whether an arrest was legal or not is in the courtroom, not out there facing a gun muzzle.

I suppose one could theoretically argue about a hypothetical corrupt police squad where the person truly thinks they will be killed or quietly "disappear" before ever making it to jail, but we are still the United States, not the cartel-owned and corrupt Mexico. In the United States, 99.9999999999999% of arrests should be battled in the courtroom.
Maybe the time to argue is in the undisclosed location where you are being held without charges and indefinitely.

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