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57Coastie wrote:

Target1911 wrote:It has happened to me several time dealing with Arl pd but never on a traffic stop. I think its wrong and their reason is invalid.

Assuming for the moment that your opinion is correct, but not necessarily agreeing with you, so what?

To rephrase what I intend as a serious question, and not a wisecrack, would you have responded differently to the LEO when he told you his intentions? If you mean to imply that the OP should have refused to permit the LEO to carry out his intentions, I would suggest that you might cause someone else to regret having fallen into a trap you, a senior member, set for him.

Jim

The roadside is NOT the place to fight such battles or to contest the officer's behavior. He articulated it was for his safety though I would rather think that as a norm, there would be some behavioral catalyst (actual reason) for such action. He was very young (possibly mid twenties) and clearly a new officer. So I am giving the benefit of the doubt here as he may:

1) Still have every encounter reviewed at the end of shift (probation).
2) Not had sufficient encounters yet with CHL holders to have reached a comfort level. God only knows what terrible scenarios he was taught that only experience will mitigate his apprehension.

Interestingly, I have had really snarky LEO encounters before but they didn't disarm me. Had he been the least bit condescending, discourteous or unprofessional there would have been a complaint filed but he was none of those.

I am typically very careful about my driving but have gotten stopped for some mistake or another, perceived or real. Until now I have not gotten any tickets and when the LEO's have found out about the CHL, none even batted an eye. Well that all changed last month. I was picking up a neighbor from his day surgery and was using his truck. I was distracted I guess and got going a little faster and got pulled over. When I informed the officer about the weapon he asked me where it was. He asked me to step out and told me he was going to remove the firearm for his safety. He did, he dropped the mag and cleared it and said he was going to place them on the seat when we were finished. What is interesting is, that he didn't even look back when he was walking back to the cruiser though I was already reloading.

He was very professional, didn't act nervous or indignant about the CHL or me being armed. But I am so used to the other attitude it took me by surprise. He was rather young and I wonder if lack of experience was the key. It was Irving P.D. on the newly expanded 114 construction area.