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by Nutcracker
Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How to check if a premise is 51%?
Replies: 61
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Re: How to check if a premise is 51%?

Based on the letter of the law, I also stand by my position until a court or AG decision shows differently.

Both positions. :tiphat:
by Nutcracker
Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How to check if a premise is 51%?
Replies: 61
Views: 31618

Re: How to check if a premise is 51%?

Thank you for demonstrating my point that Texas DPS and LTC Instructors don't always teach the actual law.
by Nutcracker
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How to check if a premise is 51%?
Replies: 61
Views: 31618

Re: How to check if a premise is 51%?

Keith B wrote:
Nutcracker wrote:
Whether they really are 51% or not, the TABC license determines if it's legal for the good guys to carry there. Well, legal to carry handguns, since carrying a rifle or a shotgun is not a crime in 51% establishments. So that's what I do.
I sure hope you are not carrying a rifle or shotgun into a 51% location, as that is a felony to carry a weapon (not handgun) into one.
Where does the penal code say that? Please quote chapter and verse of an actual law. Recent posts on this forum show Texas DPS and LTC Instructors don't always teach the actual law.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by Nutcracker
Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How to check if a premise is 51%?
Replies: 61
Views: 31618

Re: How to check if a premise is 51%?

Keith B wrote:
Strongbad wrote:
Scott in Houston wrote:I've found almost no places that have tables to serve food to be 51%. LIterally, over the last 12 years of carrying, I look all the time and if they serve food as a restaurant, they're not 51%. Even a lot of places that you'd think would bel because they focus on alcohol like BJ's Brewery, etc.

One exception is The Flying Saucer. They have tables and serve food, but are 51%.

The iPhone App is very handy.
Breastaurants are often 51%. Ojos Locos and Redneck Heaven for example are both red sign establishments. I dunno if I believe it but according to the TABC site they are.
It all depends on the location. A couple of the Redneck Heaven locations are red, and the other two are blue. TABC bases their requirement on actual sales receipts, so if a business is right on the border of 50/50 food/alcohol, then one location could tip the scales one way while another may slide the other.
Whether they really are 51% or not, the TABC license determines if it's legal for the good guys to carry there. Well, legal to carry handguns, since carrying a rifle or a shotgun is not a crime in 51% establishments. So that's what I do.

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