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by dac1842
Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:35 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: disarmed by Friendswood PD
Replies: 103
Views: 12824

Re: disarmed by Friendswood PD

I told ya some would not like it! LOL. I respect your opinion, and am sure you do mine. Being an ex cop I understand the way some of them think and have no issue being disarmed. Yes i do think that his safety is paramount to mine. I do not worry about him, he has been through background checks that makes ours look like nothing. I know there are bad cops like there are bad everything. But I can relate to how they feel. The ones that I have talked to about this very subject say the same thing. The decision to disarm varies from stop to stop.
Now for the other issues raised, I agree that it is not right that we that have CHL's, have paid anywhere from $95 to $150 for a class, $140 for the license itself have a different set of rules than the person that carries under the new law that allows carry in the vehicle. I am also against open carry for the same reasons and many others.

I am also all for unrestricted carry. I should be allowed to carry anywhere, anytime, that includes employer placed restrictions, which my employer has. The only restriction on me should be placed on all LEO as well. you cannot carry off duty in a bar. I am 100% against being under the influence while armed, the effects of alcohol effect people, that badge the off duty cop is carrying in the bar does not absorb the alcohol.

Now for the CHL badge issue... you must be kidding me. I hate hypotheticals but here goes. You walk into a stop and rob, and observe a robbery in progress, your weapon is concealed and you do NOT have a badge displayed. At this time you have not alarmed anyone and the element of surprise if you choose to draw your weapon is sill on your side.

Now the same scenario, but now your badge is displayed, the do bad just sees a badge, he does not have a bionic eye to see that it says CHL Holder, He is thinking cop,( which most that carry a chl badge want folks to think), and now instead of just telling you to lie on the floor and shut up, he sees you as an osbtacle to his freedom. SO now you have just created a possible hostage situation, or worse yet a shooting and you are probably the first target.

I know that most folks that buy the badge do so thinking if a cop sees the badge it will for at least a minute make him think and buy you some time to identify yourself especially in a tense situation. That might work for a minute, then when he sees the badge, well to say you will get a tongue lashing would be down playing the situation, at minimum he is going to laugh his butt off, and you will be the subject off roll call jokes for a long time to come.
Be safe, have a Merry Christmas.
by dac1842
Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: disarmed by Friendswood PD
Replies: 103
Views: 12824

Re: disarmed by Friendswood PD

I have posted my thoughts on this subject before and some did not like what I had to say. Doubt you will like it now either. As a former LEO, I have no issues with a police officer asking for my weapon during a stop. He has to put his safety first, He does not know you, yes you have a CHL and have gone through the background checks. But that does not mean you have not had a really bad day and are not going to flip out. Everyone thought Bundy was a nice neighbor until they found bodies in his freezer.

An officer has the right to disarm. If you read the law, the word reasonable is vague and any officer could reasonably argue, you were armed and therefore he felt for his personal safety he needed to disarm you. The times I have been stopped I have always told the officer before I handed him my chl that I am an ex cop, and I am armed and I OFFER to let him disarm me. So far none have done so, and I get stopped lots since part of my current job has me sitting in dark alleys watching other people work.

Just be cause you have a CHL does not mean you get any special treatment. It tells the officer you probably are on the up and up, but it also tells him you have a gun. On the street, someone else with a gun is not always a good thing. You should expect to get disarmed if you get stopped. But try this, in the future as you hand him your CHL be proactive, before hand you are a CHL holder, you are armed and offer to let him disarm you. Odds are he wont. Why? officers make a living reading people and situations, if you are offering all the above before you hand him the CHL and offer to be disarmed he will feel a lot more comfortable with you and you being armed.

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