^^^THIS^^^Paladin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:15 amI can tell you with certainty that the correlation is true. You have to see and understand before you can shoot, but unfortunately most are not trained properly to do so. I walked through a scenario with Paul Howe where my blue gun was aimed at his chest. With a pistol aimed at his chest I could not see his hands or what was or wasn't in them. It would have been much better for me to be at a low ready position where I could see and understand faster... and therefore respond more quickly and appropriately. The #3 position would also allow me to see and understand quickly and shoot even faster. Jim Cirillo has some outstanding material on the subject, showing that he could see and understand very quickly from the #3 position and even when he was in his 70s, from the #3 position he could shoot faster than world class pistol competitors... using the proper technique he still hit what he was aiming at.srothstein wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:23 pmI think this is not a very good study and that it appears to conflate a correlation with a cause-effect relationship. I do not see how the position the gun is carried in could possibly affect the decision to shoot. Therefore I think there is some other factor that is affecting both the decision to shoot and the decision on how to carry. My initial gut guess would be a matter of training since both decisions are made based on training....Erick Gelhaus’ talk about ready positions and “mistake of fact” shootings.
He reviewed many recent studies about the use of different ready positions affecting shooter ability to make correct use of force decisions. The high ready (gun near face, muzzle pointed up) is perhaps 0.1 sec faster to get gun to target than lower ready positions, but in well designed experiments, shooters using the high ready position made 30% more errors in shooting decisions. On the street this translates to “they shot people that should not have been shot”. Erick made the argument that lower ready positions sacrifice very little speed to provide significant reduction in unjustified use of force.
It is an interesting correlation, but it really means we need more research into it.
During a SD situation you will already be experiencing an adrenaline dump. Narrowed vision and all. Now let's take that narrow vision and block it with a handgun. You can be so focused on the sights that you lose everything else around you. In #3 as Paladin has done a very good job of explaining will allow a more visible picture of not only our assailant but a larger site (not sight) picture overall. And of course every other advantage that he as mentioned.