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kjolly wrote:When we did our instructors proficiency we had to use store brought ammunition and they inspected the boxes on the line.

It specifically states SAMMI approved ammo for the instructor qualification at DPS. Not all store-bought ammo is SAMMI certified.

RossA wrote:Well, if that's the case, then you can also say that a student has to use certain brands of ammo, certain types of guns, certain types of eye and ear protection, etc., or else they don't pass the test.
I don't see where an instructor has that authority.
The state has set out certain rules that we have agreed to use as instructors. Those are the rules we should use.

If there is not a specific rule or guideline that specifies how something is supposed to be done, then it is up to the instructor to define it and conduct it as they see fit

As SJFControl stated, they require SAMMI ammo at the DPS range. It is not specified in the government code, but they require it. There is reasonable and unreasonable. If you make sure your rules are reasonable, then it should be no issue. If the student doesn't like the rules, again, 'my range, my rules' and they can go somewhere else.

RossA wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I have a hard time with having published rules by DPS, and instructors being able to establish their own rules which go beyond the legal, published requirements. Once we let instructors establish their own rules, how far can they go?

The way I look at it, 'My Range, My Rules'. As long as I meet the scoring and timing requirements by DPS for the qualification, then I can require any measures necessary to make sure the students, range officers and myself are safe. If that means they have to qualify one student at a time, put safeties on and off, lay down guns between the single shots, etc, then it is OK.