The Shaw neighborhood is surrounded by Missouri Botanical Gardens and Tower Grove Park, and there are some very nice older homes in that area around the gardens and parks. The homes in that section of town are actually cool old brownstones and a lot of 'yuppie' types live in the neighborhood. My wife has a 2nd cousin that lives in that area. I believe there is an contingent of business and homeowners that are paying for the security, but may be incorrect.talltex wrote:I wonder who was paying for Hi Tech Security to patrol the neighborhood? Usually the officers are hired to protect a particular business or property. According to the story, he was one of a group of uniformed St.Louis PD officers hired by that company to actually patrol "the neighborhood". It says he was in official uniform and carrying department issued weapon, but didn't make it clear if he was patrolling in SLPD vehicle or one provided by Hi Tech Security. I've seen some private security companies hired by neighborhood associations to patrol some high end real estate developments in their own company vehicles, but doubt that was the case in a blighted neighborhood. Not that it has any bearing on the incident, just curious.rbwhatever1 wrote: "The officer, who was wearing a Metropolitan Police Department uniform, drove through the streets after them, then left his car and chased the group on foot. One of the men then turned toward the officer and approached him “in an aggressive manner,” Dotson said. The 18-year-old and the officer got into a physical altercation."
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- Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:03 am
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- Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:29 am
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Those who posses weapons illegally are not known for keeping them in pristine working condition. They carry with no holster, just tucked in a waistband and sweat on them. They don't wipe them down after handling, etc. They don't oil them or worry about their finish. I have seen some weapons confiscated off of individuals that were so corroded they looked like they had been sitting in the ocean for months.Dragonfighter wrote:There may have been more involved in the gun jamming than mechanics and user error.
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:19 am
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And you want to know what a pedestrian check is and is it legal? Yes it is. Terry vs. Ohio is one element. Here is a breakdown on a 'pedestrian check' that shows it has been upheld by an appeals court http://www.llrmi.com/articles/legal_upd ... eson.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;LabRat wrote:A news report I read stated the officer approached to do a "pedestrian check". What is that? Did he have a suspicion that a crime was in process or about to be committed? Why would he do a "pedestrian check"? Is walking now illegal or suspicious?
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:46 am
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The Shaw Neighborhood in St. Louis is a very high crime area and a place you do NOT want out just wandering around at night. You can see the amount of crime in just the past 30 days alone here http://spotcrime.com/mo/st.+louis/shaw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; There are a lot of 'yuppie' types that live in the area, but you have to be careful.LabRat wrote:A news report I read stated the officer approached to do a "pedestrian check". What is that? Did he have a suspicion that a crime was in process or about to be committed? Why would he do a "pedestrian check"? Is walking now illegal or suspicious?
I reserve judgement on the "thug" descriptor till more information comes to light. I've become less and less willing to automatically give the officer the benefit of the doubt in these days and times.
LabRat
[Edit] to add: http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/ ... -c#24e9da6
From that article:
"There have been several other pedestrian checks that led to police shootings in St. Louis over the past few years.
Police did not offer any explanation of what a “pedestrian check” entails.."[End edit]
If the officer approached the individuals for a check, there was more than likely reasonable suspicion that something was going on. Apparently, the suspicions were right if the guy ran and then shot back at the officer as reported by the police. Police say they recovered a Ruger handgun from the subject.