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mojo84 wrote:Keith, I didn't see when this will take effect. Did you?

victory wrote:Can somebody help me understand what this has to do with the Missouri law? You guys lost me a couple pages back.

Keith B wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

Alf wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I wish my son could at least keep his gun with him on his college campus or at least in his car.

Unless he has a criminal record and isn't eligible for MPA, Texas law doesn't prohibit guns in cars on college campus.

College rules do.

They can't prohibit it if he has a CHL. http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 01907F.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mojo84 wrote:

Alf wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I wish my son could at least keep his gun with him on his college campus or at least in his car.

Unless he has a criminal record and isn't eligible for MPA, Texas law doesn't prohibit guns in cars on college campus.

College rules do.

LDB415 wrote:The only thing I know is that the brain develops slowly and no matter how much we all think our own children are exceptional they are also children until sometime in their 20's when their brain finally finishes 'percolating'. What I don't know but highly suspect is that everyone speaking about their exceptional child who should have every right and privilege knows many other children of many other parents who are not nearly as exceptional as their own child. They know that while their exceptional child need not be worried about at all with the HEAVY responsibility imposed by the burden of carrying a firearm, the other definitely less exceptional children could and would be a worry being armed in proximity to their exceptional child.

I'm not suggesting restricting anyone else's children, only stating a reasonable reason for concern about those possibly exceptional children carrying around my actually exceptional children.

LDB415 wrote:I'm sorry but children, and teenagers are definitely children regardless of how much of an exception everyone thinks their own child(ren) is/are. I have two genius daughters who are brilliant and perfect. I would not have let them carry when they were 15/16 because as superior as they were to anyone else's average child they still were not ready for that responsibility. Neither are anyone else's less superior teenagers.

Jumping Frog wrote:

tacticool wrote:

Keith B wrote:

victory wrote:What law prohibits a licensed driver under 17 from carrying under MPA?

Actually, sorry. it's under 18

Sec. 46.06. UNLAWFUL TRANSFER OF CERTAIN WEAPONS.

And if you keep reading 46.06, you see "(c) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(2) that the transfer was to a minor whose parent or the person having legal custody of the minor had given written permission for the sale or, if the transfer was other than a sale, the parent or person having legal custody had given effective consent."

Absent parental consent, the person providing the firearm would be committing an offense. However, the 16 or 17 year old driver would not be committing an offense. So it seems parents can give (but not sell, without written permission ) a firearm to their child without violating Texas law, as long as the firearm isn't loaded when the child gets it. (46.13)

Keith, when your initial thought was age 17, I believe you were thinking of PC §46.13. MAKING A FIREARM ACCESSIBLE TO A CHILD. I can let a 17 year-old have access to a loaded handgun. Under age 17 is a Class C unless certain affirmative defenses to prosecution apply.

Jim Beaux wrote:I have conflicting opinions. I support constitutional carry, but find justification in limiting carry rights for 18 -21 year old civilians. This age group is transitioning from being kids confined by high school rules to becoming young adults adjusting to new rules....and oftentimes their path has big potholes. Statistics show that this age group poses more risk to itself and others, more criminal behavior and more danger on the roadways.

The average 18 - 21 year old young man thinks he is 7 foot tall and bullet proof. His logic is diminished by testosterone, which is the root cause for more deaths then can be quantified. (Richard Pryor said it best, It's amazing the places a man with passion on his mind will go where he wouldnt with a loaded gun.)

I do support carry rights for GI's in this age group. On average they are more capable as the military experience nurtures maturity, wisdom, responsible behavior and weapons safety. (Of course, I never grew up. I just got too old to misbehave anymore)

victory wrote:

Keith B wrote:

mojo84 wrote:You will have to confirm but for some reason, I'm thinking she can keep a handgun in the car as long as you give it to her and allow it. Like I said, I may be wrong on this but it is worth checking into.

This is correct. In Texas there is no age listed for MPA. So, as long as she is not under 17 and can legally posses the handgun, then she keep it concealed in the vehicle.

What law prohibits a licensed driver under 17 from carrying under MPA?

Sec. 46.06. UNLAWFUL TRANSFER OF CERTAIN WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
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(2) intentionally or knowingly sells, rents, leases, or gives or offers to sell, rent, lease, or give to any child younger than 18 years any firearm, club, or illegal knife;

mojo84 wrote:You will have to confirm but for some reason, I'm thinking she can keep a handgun in the car as long as you give it to her and allow it. Like I said, I may be wrong on this but it is worth checking into.