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by Keith B
Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:09 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo
Replies: 47
Views: 5424

Re: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo

texanjoker wrote:
Keith B wrote:They weren't just armed with patrol rifles, they were in position

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Yup that is what one does...what's the problem? You would take up a perimeter and call the person out in a call like this. That also shows a normal uniformed patrol officer and not swat. IF they were raiding the home as the OP tried to suggest they would be kicking in the door which is not the case here.
You better look closer. Looks like tactical uniform to me. Bloused pants, all dark blue. He was not shooting at people, had not actually threatened anyone with a gun, didn't have a hostage. There maybe previous history between the department and this individual we don't know about, but tactics like this are overboard in most cases.
by Keith B
Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:02 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo
Replies: 47
Views: 5424

Re: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo

texanjoker wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Neither article indicates the house was "raided" as that term is commonly used. They went to his house and talked to the owner.

That said, I think also points out the continuing unnecessary expansion of the use of SWAT teams. Apparently, the call to the PD said a man MAY have threatened them but they are sure, and he MAY have had a gun. In my view, this does not justify a military-like response.

I know some of the responses I'll get, so let me say this, if you don't want the risk of being a COP, do something else. When an agency or officer put the lives of the officers above those of the people they are sworn to protect, then they are not fit to wear a badge.

Chas.
What would you have the police do? They responded, and it is appropriate to arm oneself with a patrol rifle in a call like this. The rifle gives an advantage where you don't have to be so close. That is not a military response. No where in this article does it state SWAT was called. Cops with rifles responded.
They weren't just armed with patrol rifles, they were in position

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by Keith B
Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:13 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo
Replies: 47
Views: 5424

Re: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo

jimlongley wrote: Of course there is also the fact that Maine is an unlicensed open carry state, so someone, particularly on his own property, just carrying a gun in the manner depicted should, in an ideal world, elicit exactly no response at all.
Actually, in most open carry states there is the same type of statute we have that states 'carried in a manner calculated to alarm' or 'displayed in a threatening manner'. I am aware of a couple of arrests that were made when I was a LEO with people having a displayed firearm visible during a fight and they were charged with the violation.

Here is the statute that was in effect when I was a LEO
Unlawful use of weapons--exceptions--penalties.
571.030.
1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:
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(4) Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner; or....
They added this statute in 2013 to take care of issues in cities where open carry was prohibited by local ordinances but someone accidental displayed their concealed handgun.
Open display of firearm permitted, when.
571.037.
Any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued prior to August 28, 2013, or a valid concealed carry permit, and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, may briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self defense.
(L. 2012 H.B. 1647, A.L. 2013 S.B. 75)
by Keith B
Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:19 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo
Replies: 47
Views: 5424

Re: Police raid home due to man's gun tattoo

This guy is not your typical clean-cut neighbor. He's a white supremacist. Here's a photo

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Check out the Nazi Party tattoo on his left inner arm. A real winner IMO. :totap:

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