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by Keith B
Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:16 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06
Replies: 48
Views: 8372

Re: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06

In the words of Bill Engvalls, 'Here's Your Sign'. :mrgreen:

It is not a 30.06 sign, it is the Unlicensed Possesion sign just made to look nice on the wall and match their decor. There was one in Spanish on the opposite side of the foyer at the Plano locaiton.

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by Keith B
Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:01 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06
Replies: 48
Views: 8372

Re: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06

ATDM wrote:Thanks, Keith. I still think it's ridiculous — the way they turned 6 pages of the constitution into hundreds of thousands of pages of unnecessary laws. If people know it's illegal to carry a gun without a license (which is a violation of the constitutional rights, in my opinion, in and of itself), why should they create more laws saying it's illegal that it's illegal that it's illegal? I know that the penalty would be more severe in certain places, but if someone decides to break the law by carrying, they cast the dice.
It boils down to years and years of changes and modifications to laws. There are leftover sentences and bits of law that get overlooked when a change is made and makes the law confusing, etc. In this case, I think it was really just a matter of the TABC requiring a sign to help identify if a location that sold alcohol for on-premise consumption was a >51% location (no carry at all) or a location that was <51% revenue from alcohol sales (licensed carry only allowed). The sign is also a means of reinforcing the enhancement to a felony during a trial if a person is caught carrying unlicensed as the defense can't say the person didn't know it was a felony to have a pistol there.
by Keith B
Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06
Replies: 48
Views: 8372

Re: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06

ATDM wrote:
Keith B wrote: I am 99% sure it is a Unlicensed possession sign that is in the form of a plaque to match the décor of the restaurant. I will take a photo of one tomorrow if I get a chance.
Since unlicensed possession is illegal regardless, why bother putting up the sign?
Actually, it is required by the TABC. And, carrying an unlicesned weapon into a locaiton that sells alcohol is a felony vs.a Class A misdemnor
§ 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits
an offense if he intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on
or about his person a handgun, illegal knife, or club.
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an offense under
this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third
degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or
issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.
by Keith B
Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06
Replies: 48
Views: 8372

Re: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06

JP171 wrote:ok not too sure, but as OG is a Darden Inc owned brand of restaurant if I am remembering correctly Darden does not have a policy prohibiting concealed weapons by patrons. ALL OG, Red Lobster and several others are company owned, they do NOT franchise, the company policy takes precedence not a managers wants or desires, gotta wait till I talk to my Darden contact and see if I am remembering correctly. but if I am it will be down post haste, managers can be terminated for improper/unauthorized signage at the stores


here is a list of stores owned by Darden inc. , all of these are owned and never franchised. Chilis is not on the list they are not owned by Darden

Red Lobster
Olive Garden
LongHorn Steakhouse
Bahama Breeze
Seasons 52
The Capital Grille
Eddie V's
Yard House
I am 99% sure it is a Unlicensed possession sign that is in the form of a plaque to match the décor of the restaurant. I will take a photo of one tomorrow if I get a chance.
by Keith B
Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:26 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06
Replies: 48
Views: 8372

Re: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06

ATDM wrote:
EEllis wrote:Saw this posted on another board. Olive Garden is a Darden property
Dear (2ACheck):
If you were to see a “no guns” sign in a Darden restaurant where concealed and/or open-carry weapons are legally allowed, please contact our Guest Relations Department at 1-800-562-7837 and we will follow up with that restaurant management team.
I hope this answers your questions, (2ACheck), and we hope to see you in one of our restaurants soon!
We appreciate the time you took to contact us.
Sincerely,
Shari
Red Lobster Guest Relations
So, this number would be a valid number to call regarding the Olive Garden restaurant?
I think you may want to hold off any calls. I seem to remember that Olive Garden and Chili's for a couple chains make their own 'Unlicensed possession (TABC)' signs that they are required by law to post. If the sign was a really nice looking well made sign, then I believe that is what it is. I will try to go by the one near my office tomorrow and take a photo and you can see if it is the dame one. Until then, don't contact the company.
by Keith B
Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06
Replies: 48
Views: 8372

Re: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06

CHLLady wrote:I know I always do a double take on the Unlicensed... Signs. The OG on Alta Mere has the Unlicensed sign as well.

Hope it's not something they're going towards.
The 'Unlicensed possession' sign? They are required to post those by TABC. I also think they have one that is printed specifically for them to match their décor in the entry.
by Keith B
Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:13 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06
Replies: 48
Views: 8372

Re: Olive Garden and CHL / 30.06

TexasCajun wrote:
Texas 3006 is user-generated. You'll have to create an account in order to submit an entry. But the mod there has asked that people only post valid signs. So if it's an actual enforceable 30.06, then please add it.
Actually, we want any sign that is valid or not that is an attempt at a 30.06. We do NOT want gun buster signs, 'No Guns' signs, etc, only those that are 30.06 'like' signs. Also, 51% locations can be posted there.

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