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jimlongley wrote:Nope, a BB cap uses a round ball, while a CB cap uses a conical one, thus "CB" cap. Can't trust wikipedia to have everything, or have it right.

You're correct. Here are the differences in .22 CB and BB rounds :

Here are CCI .22 CB Rounds

Here is an UMAREX BB Cap

jimlongley wrote:
wgoforth wrote:Isn't there a .22 used just for carnivals and such that has no powder but only the cap?

Edit: Found it... a .22 colibri
Predating the Colibri by more than 100 years was the BB (Bulleted Breech) cap, and quite common in the county fair guns. I used to win at those fairly regularly, it was primarily a matter of getting the carny to let you use the same gun often enough to find out how far off its sights were and then using "Kentucky Windage" to run the score up. Most of the carnies would take notice if you kept using the same gun over and over and would make you change guns, but if you were sneaky enough you could get away with it, particularly noting that the carnies took breaks and moved from booth to booth. It helped that I didn't hit my growth spurt until I was almost 16, so I still looked like a kid even when I was an active NRA competitor.

One old carny switched me to a little gun that had the front sight bent almost 90 degrees, but after a few shots I had it figured out and put all my shots in the center of the star before he had a chance to switch me to another gun, and then when he was trying show me that all the shots hadn't made it through the center of the star, the piece of target that he had stuck to his finger fell off.

Got a big (6 foot) stuffed shark for my date out of that one, but I wound up carrying it.

A couple of other things the carnies used to do was not clean the guns, and some had the rifling, if not removed, at least severely compromised.

I think the term today on these is a CB Cap .22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_CB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Can still find those at some gun shops. They work good for neighborhood squirrels.

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The rounds may have been Colibri's. I do remember there were two games that I shot .22. One was a regular animated shooting gallery (ducks, birds, bunnies, etc) all moving across the backstop. The other was a paper target with 5 stars and you had to get the bullet hole inside the star, one shot each, and not touch the line outline of the star.

If I remember right both of them used a rifle similar to the Winchester 61

I liked Andy Griffith as a kid, but wasn't really into the Westerns my Dad liked. I would usually go do other things when those were on. Today, I love to watch the old Andy Griffith, Bonanza and Gunsmoke reruns. I even like The Walton's. When that was on, if I tried to change the channel, my Dad would get almost as mad as Mom would if I tried to change the channel during 'The Guiding Light'

TDDude wrote:Was watching Andy Griffith and it was the one where Opie wants to win his dad a razor at the carnival. Looks like he was shooting a Winchester 61 Pump .22.

Imagine that, live fire at a carnival!! The Horror!! The Horror!!!

I can personally remember shooting galleries at the Fair and Carnivals when I was a kid that used .22 shorts.

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