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texanjoker wrote:My point is politicians could go in and change it all. The system is confusing to everybody as they go to private businesses and the govt trying to figure if it is a "legal" sign. Sure they can add some wording about a govt building but then also change it to require any no gun sign a valid posting.

Not gonna happen. It already says it is invalid on a government building. They would not go back and try to twist it around. If that happened the bill would be withdrawn.

texanjoker wrote:

Keith B wrote:

Abraham wrote:Are there any bills pending in the Texas congress regarding inappropriate 30.06 signs being posted & penalties for such? (at city owned venues, etc.)

If there are no penalties such practices will continue - with the continued attitude by overzealous city government officials that defy what the law says exhibiting an attitude thats insists we'll post em anyway and haul you off to jail if you CHLers enter armed.

There was a bill that had a penalty for this, but it disappeared when the session ended and was not voted on. Any new legislation would have to be introduced in the 2015 session.

This could backfire. I can easily seeing politicians changing the signs making any no gun sign a proper posting. The way the system is now is very confusing to know if it's a proper posting or not.

No, it was written only to put a penalty on a governmental entity that purposly put up a 30.06 sign to try and keep CHL holders out.

Abraham wrote:Are there any bills pending in the Texas congress regarding inappropriate 30.06 signs being posted & penalties for such? (at city owned venues, etc.)

If there are no penalties such practices will continue - with the continued attitude by overzealous city government officials that defy what the law says exhibiting an attitude thats insists we'll post em anyway and haul you off to jail if you CHLers enter armed.

There was a bill that had a penalty for this, but it disappeared when the session ended and was not voted on. Any new legislation would have to be introduced in the 2015 session.

CPPoe wrote:As of 11/02/2013, it is not permissible to carry at Dell Diamond. I attended a concert yesterday and there was more than one sign at each entrance indicating concealed carry is not allowed. I have no idea when this policy was put into effect.

Prohibited items:
Food
Beverages
Firearms

Also, large 30.06 signs were up at each entrance.

30.06 signs are not valid as the Dell Diamond is owned by the City of Round Rock, a government entity. It would be off limits during a Rock Hounds game or other professional sporting event, but a concert would not be enforceable under 30.06.

ucw wrote: Concealed Carry has been around for a long time Texas. As cops, we are trained to deal with it and familiar with the applicable laws. There is no need to be nervous and especially no need to be hostile. Personally, if you have a CHL and you are polite, I feel more comfortable dealing with you than I feel with the avg person because at least I know you have passed a background check, and you have enough patience to complete the paperwork. It's up to the individual officer if he wants to secure your firearm til he's done with his business. You'll get it back.

Frist off, welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately there are those LEO's that do not feel the same. Many are pro-CHL, but a few are not. Additionally, there are those in the middle who may not be against it, but still don't necessarily feel someone with a gun is going to be a good guy, even with a license. I also know many that do not know the laws pertaining to licensed concealed carry off the top of their head or are not up to date on changes in the laws. This is mainly because they very rarely deal with a CHL and don't have to reference the laws other than during a traffic stop. While i understand that a LEO can't know all of the laws verbatim in their heads (used to be one myself), they should at least be familiar enough to know that accidental exposure of the weapon or carrying in a unposted church or hospital is not an arrestable offense.