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drjoker,

The cases you cited above were fighting government for civil rights, not private business rules and restrictions. This is apples and oranges. We will have to agree to disagree that private business can restrict things they don't want their employees to do.

Dragonfighter wrote:What about changing policy AFTER you have come to work? A company can simply say if you continue to work here you agree to the new terms, without your signature.

At that point you have the right to either resign, comply and start looking for another job, or comply and take it up with company management to get the rule change reversed.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying i like it when companies have anti-gun policies; I work for one and have to comply. What I am saying is those that try to set their own rules and override laws, rules and restrictions on their own accord must face the consequences and IMO don't have the right to complain when called on it and punished for the violation.

cbr600 wrote:
Keith B wrote:I personally disagree with people breaking rules like this. You agree to follow the rules when you sign on, and if you break them, then that is your doing and you should be reprimanded appropriately for that. No different than being on this forum; you follow the rules or you don't play. If you break them you are reprimanded.

I agree people should follow any rules they knew before they accepted the job offer.

However, if a company makes me a job offer, and does not disclose the policy as part of the offer, then I would not feel morally bound to comply.

I understand they can fire me without notice if they find out, just as I can quit without notice for any reason. Even during my first week.

Keith B wrote:An employer should have the right to prohibit whatever they don't like in their buildings. Now, I DO agree that they should not be able to prohibit you from having it in YOUR vehicle on the parking lot, but past that they have rights too.
I don't see any meaningful difference between employer policies regarding what's in your car on their property, versus what's in your pocket on their property. If employers have the right to prohibit firearms on their property, then they have the right to prohibit firearms on their property. I understand the "parking lot" concept is popular, but it makes no logical sense to me to draw the line there. Drawing it at the employer's property line, on the other hand, makes complete sense to me.

I will admit I haven't interviewed for any jobs in a VERY long time, however, I would be making sure I had reviewed the employee policies before going to work for a company. They might want me to something weird like wear a dress while working and I wouldn't want to have to shave my legs to work there.

As for the vehicle, it all boils down to here you draw the line on my vs. your property. The reason i say vehicle and it doesn't leave there is that the vehicle is your way to and from work and you are being prohibited from carrying while NOT on the job. Once you arrive, then your vehicle becomes your storage locker for the weapon and it doesn't move from there.

drjoker wrote:
Keith B wrote:
drjoker wrote:If any of y'all carry at work where it is legal but against employee rules and you get fired, let us know and we'll picket the place for you.
Who is 'We' and how many 'We's' do you have to chip in money?
We = I and any other patriotic 2nd A supporting Americans reading this forum.

I just wondered whose money and picketing time you were so openly volunteering.

I personally disagree with people breaking rules like this. You agree to follow the rules when you sign on, and if you break them, then that is your doing and you should be reprimanded appropriately for that. No different than being on this forum; you follow the rules or you don't play. If you break them you are reprimanded. An employer should have the right to prohibit whatever they don't like in their buildings. Now, I DO agree that they should not be able to prohibit you from having it in YOUR vehicle on the parking lot, but past that they have rights too. If you disagree with them, then go through the appropriate steps to get the employer to change them. Until that time, you follow them or find a job where you agree with the rules.

drjoker wrote:If any of y'all carry at work where it is legal but against employee rules and you get fired, let us know and we'll picket the place for you. We'll write letters for you. We'll even chip in a couple bucks apiece to help you make rent. We have got to stick up for each other or we'll lose our 2nd A rights, one work place at a time.

Who is 'We' and how many 'We's' do you have to chip in money?

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