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by Keith B
Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Procedure at the state capitol
Replies: 49
Views: 6784

Re: Procedure at the state capitol

O6nop wrote:
texas1234 wrote:I just talked to a few staff members at the Capitol who are pro-gun and pro-chl. They do not want to see access denied to CHL holders, but like me they completely agree something needed to be done about the security up there, it has been dismal for a very long time, and it wasnt just one incident it has been numerous incidents where security has failed in even the most basic forms, and it is not fair to the staff for them to work in a high profile atmosphere like a State Capitol and not have more protection and be completely open to any crazy person who wants to walk in their office and do damage. I understand everyones view on not wanting the State to start imposing locks and chains on everything, but the reality is we dont live in that world and something needed to be done up there to enhance security and help protect the visitors, staff, and legislators. I do understand the metal detectors are not fool proof but they definately help. The Marine in me says its about time and thank goodness they are at least trying to do something before somebody gets hurt. On a purely ideological level no I dont want metal detectors but the common sense part of me says you dont have a choice.
Am I just beating a dead horse here? We don't 'live in that world' because we are letting the government take it away. And the question that never seems to get answered is why is it more important to protect these people inside the building then leave them to fend for themselves once they set foot outside? If the answer is "because they can", then where will it stop?
"pro-gun" and "pro-chl" seem to have different meanings to everyone.
Yes you are beating a dead horse in trying to tell us something I think we all really agree with. Most of our posts have been realistic answers to 'What happens now' and 'how do you deal with the change', not the 'We can't let them do this, they are trampling on our rights' statements that we all know is happening.

My question is, what are you going to do to show your displeasure with their move other than make your posts here? I plan to call Senator Shapiro's office, as well as the new state rep primary winner Van Taylor and tell them I am not happy with the move. I don't think calling Brian McCall's office will do any good at present since he is a lame duck. We already know that Gov. Perry was against it, but he will hear from me also.

Now, realistically, will it get them removed? Probably not, so let's look at what is more than likely going to be the outcome: You show your CHL and they let you pass and you meet your family on the other side of the metal detectors. End of story. :banghead:
by Keith B
Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Procedure at the state capitol
Replies: 49
Views: 6784

Re: Procedure at the state capitol

O6nop wrote:I have every confidence that the DPS or APD will come up with something similar to a Nuisance Abatement to restrict CHLers from entering the Capitol grounds at all.
Keith B wrote:There will more than likely not be metal detectors in place by the 17th since the article says within the next 45 days. And, let's face it, all that is required is to show your CHL to the person at the metal detector, and be allowed to walk around the unit, or even pass through and they ignore the beep. It ain't that hard to do.
What was required before? Why is it OK to single us out from all other citizens? Why are we wiping our brow because it isn't worse? Why are we going backwards? Who are we protecting with this new rule (inside,outside, what difference does it make?)?
Well, you can believe what you want, but until the state statute is changed, they cannot prohibit CHL holders from entering the capitol building. I agree it is not the way we would like to see it. Unrestricted access was great, but like happens a lot of times, one bad apple spoiled the whole bunch and the powers at be did a knee-jerk and they are now restricting access. Bottom line, it is what it is. Admittedly you will now have to go through a couple of extra steps to get access, but let's face it, we could be like other states where you can't carry in government buildings at all.
by Keith B
Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:20 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Procedure at the state capitol
Replies: 49
Views: 6784

Re: Procedure at the state capitol

O6nop wrote:
Kythas wrote:I guess the April 17th 2nd Amendment rally at the State Capitol is timed perfectly, then!
Except if there is NO procedure in place by then, CHLers will not be able to go into the Capitol building. And from the sound of it, there will be CHLers there.
There will more than likely not be metal detectors in place by the 17th since the article says within the next 45 days. And, let's face it, all that is required is to show your CHL to the person at the metal detector, and be allowed to walk around the unit, or even pass through and they ignore the beep. It ain't that hard to do.
by Keith B
Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:35 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Procedure at the state capitol
Replies: 49
Views: 6784

Re: Capitol to install Metal Detectors. Gov. notes NO

ErnieP wrote:The Capitol will soon become a "crime welcome" location with the adoption today of a new policy to quickly install metal detectors. Here is a link to the Austin-American Statesman article:

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While not stated, I strongly suspect there is no CHL exemption.....

Guess I will not be visiting Our Capitol again.....ugh........
Per state law there cannot be a CHL exemption unless the legislature is in session and posted 30.06. So, they will have to provide a method for a CHL'er to carry past the metal detectors.

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