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by Keith B
Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:04 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Another Taser Death Raises Eyebrows To New Levels
Replies: 31
Views: 3351

Re: Another Taser Death Raises Eyebrows To New Levels

Dragonfighter wrote:Oh yeah, he's done.
Maybe not. He was apparently suspended with no pay for 30 days, then they paid him while on administrative leave through September 09. He had been reporting to work on some type of temporary assignment through mid-December. This is the last article I can find on it, but apparently he still has a job.

The county has tentatively agreed to pay the lady $75,000 in damages in her law suit for being wrongfully tasered. Hmmm, where do I sign up? :evil2:

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by Keith B
Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:05 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Another Taser Death Raises Eyebrows To New Levels
Replies: 31
Views: 3351

Re: Another Taser Death Raises Eyebrows To New Levels

gigag04 wrote: I don't think a Taser qualifies as a deadly weapon. Either in case law or according to Texas PC.
Tasers are 'less lethal' or 'compliance' weapons. I have a friend who is a retired LEO and well known expert in this type of defense. While it used to be referred to as 'non-lethal', they have moved to the other terms due to the fact that rubber bullets, bean bags, tasers, etc CAN cause death, depending on various things from the physical condition of the subject, to the way the force was applied (properly or improperly.)
by Keith B
Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:22 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Another Taser Death Raises Eyebrows To New Levels
Replies: 31
Views: 3351

Re: Another Taser Death Raises Eyebrows To New Levels

RiveraRa wrote:I say they are deadly force based off of this reasoning.
The definition of deadly force according to th TX PC 38.01 C is:
"Deadly force" means force that is intended or known by the actor to cause, or in the manner of its use or intended use is capable of causing, death or serious bodily injury.

Tasers have proven that they are capable of causing death. And while I have never used one or seen one in real life, I would assume that since your muscles are basically rendered useless you could fall and hit your head on the curb or something similar that would cause "serious bodily injury"

Based off of that definition in the TX PC I say, yes, they are considered deadly force.
Actually, I am not sure. You need to read the lines in front of what you put in red. I think the statement 'intended or known by the actor to cause, or in the manner of its use or intended use' is the out. This removes the taser from the deadly force as it is not intended, or the manner of use, or intended use was to cause death or serious bodily injury, just incapacitate them. Unless they can prove that the actor knew the taser could/would cause death (listed above) then they are gonna be cleared of using deadly force.

JMO, and IANAL. ;-)

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