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mloamiller wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:36 pm

Keith B wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:05 pm As I stated earlier, I just assume if a business is a RED >51% venue, then anything associated with it will be off limits.

I used the example of the movie/dinner theatre because I've been in one where there weren't any signs on the front door, or where you purchase movie tickets. Once you get into the lobby area, you can see a bar on one side that has a 51% sign next to it.

Logically, it's hard to believe the entire location gets more than 51% of it's revenue for on-site alcohol consumption, but I also acknowledge that "logic" isn't always a requirement when it comes to laws.

It’s possible the bar is contracted as a separate business. HOWEVER, if they filed the license to cover the whole building as the ‘premise’, and they allow drinks to be carried into the theaters, then TABC will consider the whole place to be off limits.

A good example of that is Bass Music Hall in Ft Worth. The bar is run by a concessionaire, and they hold the liquor license. They allow alcohol to be consumed in the whole building. So, while the music hall makes none of their revenue from liquor sales for on premise consumption, the concessionaire does. TABC doesn’t separate out the other businesses, but only who holds the license, so that makes rather whole place off limits.

There are other businesses like that as well, such as the Kimbell Art Museum, for one.

If a location is posted with a blue sign, the licensed carry is permitted on the whole premise (unless privately posted 30.06/07). Restaurants with bar areas are usually not gonna be separate businesses and you can sit at the bar and drink or not, as long as you’re not intoxicated while carrying (what ‘intoxicated’ means is for another discussion. Search for those on here if curious).

The tricky part can be what is actually the ‘premises’. When a business applies to TABC for a liquor license, they define the area where alcohol is allowed to be consumed on the ‘premises’. That defined area doesn’t show up on readily available information sites. It really is not an issue for <51% locations that post the blue sign, but becomes an issue for >51% businesses with a RED sign as to where you can or can’t carry. USUALLY the whole building will be off limits by definition, so if posted RED, then I just assume the whole place is a no carry zone. The gotcha would be some business that has defined the parking lot or other open outdoor area on their property as part of the premises where alcohol can be consumed under their license. Music venues with stages and open concert areas would be an example of those.

As I stated earlier, I just assume if a business is a RED >51% venue, then anything associated with it will be off limits.