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pcernuch wrote:

lama wrote:I can find link after link of guns being used to kill or maim humans and dogs all over the US.
I can find link after link of people dying in car accidents involving Fords.
Whats your point?

Any animal large enough can injure or kill a person or similarly sized animal. You seem to be arguing that the chance is there, so the animal should not exist. I have seen a Labrador try to take a kids arm off. If the risk of something dangerous happening is reason enough for eradication then all dogs, nearly all farm animals, and most cats should cease to exist.

Pit Bulls attract a certain type of owner because of the stereotype and therefor the stereotype self fulfills, few could argue that point but that does not make the entire existence void.

I don't have a dog in this fight as I don't own a pit bull or particularly care to so I will leave it at that.

my thoughts exactly. We have pit. bad dogs, much like ill-behaved children are from lack of parenting. our dog sleeps at the foot of my sons bed between the door and Jr. He is a great dog, and Jr is a great kid. I would be lying to you if i didn't say i think both are good because there is no doubt whom the Alpha Dog is in our pack. Hint: he only has 2 legs.

god bless.

Pariah3j wrote:
Not a pit only problem, plenty of other breeds need an established 'alpha' or it can cause behavioral problems in them as well.

Yes, that's why I mentioned the other breeds in other decades. They are dogs with a purpose, if you take the purpose out then they need an outlet to vent... and that can be destructive...

If I can recall correctly, the 80's was the doberman, 90's rottweilers, 2000's presa canarios, 2010-today pitbulls. The pitbull breed can have a big litter, hence that's why you can see many of them in the kill shelters, try bringing one to a shelter and most likely they will tell you that they are full of that breed and if you drop the dog it will be put down if no one adopts them.

Another factor why you see many in the shelters is because of the owners, pitbulls are not for first time dog owners. That breed is constantly challenging to be the alpha and the owner/s need to understand all actions from the dog, from having the dog eat last after the humans to making sure when they go for walks they are either on the side or behind or a simple retreat from an owner if the dog jumps on you. if they start conceding the alpha position that's when trouble starts.