Fair enough.
I do think many take the position that possessing a CHL obligates them beyond the boundaries of what they're about, if that makes any sense...?
And yes, at times I tend to exaggerate to make my point. Perhaps, in this latest, to a fault.
Many times the responses teach me something new.
Truth be told, I would step up to the plate were it necessary, (how could I not?) but I find it instructive to be a devil's advocate...
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- Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:47 am
- Forum: The Crime Blotter
- Topic: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against bandit
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- Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:08 am
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- Topic: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against bandit
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Re: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against band
"And an LEO has no duty to protect you says the Supreme Court"
But you do?
I do?
By virtue of getting a CHL, one adopts the mantle of righting violent wrongs wherever they announce themselves?
Go through the effort of getting a CHL and I now have the burden of protecting one and all?
Do I have that right?
If I do, we'll have to agree to disagree.
But you do?
I do?
By virtue of getting a CHL, one adopts the mantle of righting violent wrongs wherever they announce themselves?
Go through the effort of getting a CHL and I now have the burden of protecting one and all?
Do I have that right?
If I do, we'll have to agree to disagree.
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:44 pm
- Forum: The Crime Blotter
- Topic: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against bandit
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Re: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against band
baldeagle,
You're right - in the scenario you've listed, there's no ambiguity, but if the bad guy's isn't a direct threat to me or my loved ones, I'm not going to intervene.
Of course, I'm not going to cover my eyes and hope for the best either. I will be ready as I can be, but I won't act unless it's absolutely necessary to defend me and/or mine.
I'm not an LEO.
You're right - in the scenario you've listed, there's no ambiguity, but if the bad guy's isn't a direct threat to me or my loved ones, I'm not going to intervene.
Of course, I'm not going to cover my eyes and hope for the best either. I will be ready as I can be, but I won't act unless it's absolutely necessary to defend me and/or mine.
I'm not an LEO.
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:21 am
- Forum: The Crime Blotter
- Topic: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against bandit
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Re: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against band
baldeagle,
I understand under certain circumstances an armed response by a CHLer may very well be legal, but that's one very big, circumstantial step.
As an example, you see someone you're certain is a victim and go charging in with your gun drawn and it turns out he/she is the perpetrator. There are endless varieties of ways this type of things can go wrong for you when you step up to the plate, absolutely certain you're doing the right thing.
Say goodbye to your freedom and welcome to financial ruin.
Me, I'm defending myself and my loved ones only.
I understand under certain circumstances an armed response by a CHLer may very well be legal, but that's one very big, circumstantial step.
As an example, you see someone you're certain is a victim and go charging in with your gun drawn and it turns out he/she is the perpetrator. There are endless varieties of ways this type of things can go wrong for you when you step up to the plate, absolutely certain you're doing the right thing.
Say goodbye to your freedom and welcome to financial ruin.
Me, I'm defending myself and my loved ones only.
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:02 am
- Forum: The Crime Blotter
- Topic: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against bandit
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Re: AutoZone employee fired after taking action against band
Being armed or having access to a gun doesn't make us LEO's.
I will defend myself and my loved ones, but I'm not going to put myself in harm's way for you or your property.
Am I uncaring or in some way wrong for my personal mind-set?
I don't think so.
Some of use with CHLs need to think very carefully about what possessing a CHL means.
I will defend myself and my loved ones, but I'm not going to put myself in harm's way for you or your property.
Am I uncaring or in some way wrong for my personal mind-set?
I don't think so.
Some of use with CHLs need to think very carefully about what possessing a CHL means.