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Apology accepted! I apologize for misunderstanding your post. Let's move back to the topic at hand.

Yes, you should have known better. Leave us simpletons to our misery.

You know, I did say "if". You can simply say, "No, that's not what I meant" instead of adopting a condescending attitude and writing anyone off who doesn't interpret your post how you intended it. That's part of posting on a forum where we can't have a face to face conversation.

(PS--can I use a rolleyes here?)

Douva wrote: History's most horrific mistakes and egregious injustices have been perpetuated by those who sought and those who offered simple solutions to complex problems. The questions surrounding right-to-carry are complex. To propose less-than-complex answers to those questions is dangerous.

OK, not that's just off the wall. You are taking his "simple" comment out of context because the poster was only conveying that Chas had a way of making a complex problem easier to understand, NOT that Chas had a simple solution.

Secondly, if you are really saying that the failure to pass OC will somehow result in one of history's "most horrific mistakes and egregious injustices" then that's just hogwash. OC is a Bad Idea(tm) and Chas has outlined some very real reasons on why. Unfortunately, the OC crowd fails to see the forest for the trees. If they get their way, I think it will end up spoiling it for the rest of us. The only bright side in all this is that no one seems to be taking them seriously this session.

In other words, pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.

Charles L. Cotton wrote: I don't really think §30.06 would be repealed; I think it would be amended to apply to open and concealed carry.

Chas, can I infer from your post that you believe it would then follow that we will see a huge increase the number of 30.06 postings?

I fear that they might even adopt a "Look how safe we are, we are 30.06 posted" stance. No guns = safety in the minds of many people. It could even become the thing to have, business would PROMOTE themselves as being 30.06 posted as a way to gain customers! If it became a public trend, where people wanted to shop in "gun free zones", I would expect many new companies to be posting.

Worst case scenario, I see gun owners being ousted and encroached upon like smokers are now. Did you know that at Boeing, not only can you not smoke outside the building, you cannot even have tobacco products in your car! How's that for intrusive? If guns become the next "bad thing" like cigarettes are now, you can expect this will happen too.

I guess they are different groups of people, but I find it ironic that on one hand there are CHL'ers who are desperate to keep their CHL status private--just check the four page thread, and then there are those who want to open carry for all the world to know.