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philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:57 pm The mentally ill defensive problem you may have could be a loved one.

Gather everyone one in your house up and leave. Don’t come back till the next day. Or in an hour or two and check on the loved one.

Do not call the police.

If you call the police, it seems to generally end bad.

Just my suggestion.

I can't follow this logic..... so what about the next time they go off the mental rails if the remain un-medicated or continue not dealing with their issues? or the next day when they decide to kill you in your sleep? I have family that has had mental issues so am well aware of how fast things can go wrong with mental illnesses.... Often if it is this bad a few hours or even days won't make a bit of difference in their mental stability. It takes days to weeks at best for most to get back straight from anything that would push them into a violent mental state and that's with medical help. family or not if they are a threat then they are a threat. ignoring it and coming back later doesn't do you or them any favors IMO. I'm not hanging around waiting for a grenade to go off for anyone who let's their mental issues go unchecked.... I'll help them get to help and do whatever I can to support but if it becomes violent then standard self defense rules apply including involvement of medical and police if necessary.... It's sad and hard on families but still better than death at the hands of a mentally ill person....