lolol good catch!The Annoyed Man wrote:He shot the clerk? What is this.... My Cousin Vinny?PackinPig wrote:http://q13fox.com/2017/06/23/spanaway-c ... hoplifter/
*Not LTC related, rather handgun related.*
Convenience store owner received 8 years for shooting fleeing clerk.
Although there are numerous things the clerk did that probably made the situation worse, there are many good lessons to be learned from this situation. Here are a few of the main points I took from this situation:
1. Demonstrates the possible consequences of using deadly force, and how using your handgun may not be the best choice in every situation.
2. Example why you should never re-holster and re-engage the bad guy.
3. Consider what you have to lose emotionally and mentally vs physically.
After reading articles such as this I like to imagine myself in the clerk's shoes. I feel that going through scenarios that have actually happened and breaking them down keeps a person's mind sharp.
My first observation, as stated above, is that there are consequences in using your firearm. Regardless of, whether or not you were justified. You get dragged through court and are put through a grueling process and even if you are found not guilty of a criminal offense you can still be summoned to civil court. However, I'm not an attorney and will not go into legal ramifications.
My second point is that if I have a bad guy at gun point I would never holster and re-engage the suspect in a physical altercation. This is never a good idea (in my opinion) and can only lead to a bad ending. This brings me to my third and final point.
Although, situations such as this tend to move exceptionally fast and often many actions are the work of muscle memory, one should consider if what the bad guy is stealing is worth the consequences in the long run. The perp in this situation took a pack of cigarettes. Think of all the good things in your life (family, friends, hobbies, your future) and then question if it's worth throwing it all away for a pack of cigarettes.
These are my opinions and are simply to provoke thought.
Thank You
This is the article involving the store owner's wife involved in a shooting incident at the same store back in February.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ed-robber/
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You are right about the "Theft at night" but I still feel it isn't worth the backlash.philip964 wrote:At night in Texas, if the robber was leaving with the cigarettes, he would be ok.
However, in Washington state I'm surprised he did not get life.
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WA: Convenience store owner gets 8 years for shooting fleeing perp
http://q13fox.com/2017/06/23/spanaway-c ... hoplifter/
*Not LTC related, rather handgun related.*
Convenience store owner received 8 years for shooting fleeing perp.
Although there are numerous things the clerk did that probably made the situation worse, there are many good lessons to be learned from this situation. Here are a few of the main points I took from this situation:
1. Demonstrates the possible consequences of using deadly force, and how using your handgun may not be the best choice in every situation.
2. Example why you should never re-holster and re-engage the bad guy.
3. Consider what you have to lose emotionally and mentally vs physically.
After reading articles such as this I like to imagine myself in the clerk's shoes. I feel that going through scenarios that have actually happened and breaking them down keeps a person's mind sharp.
My first observation, as stated above, is that there are consequences in using your firearm. Regardless of, whether or not you were justified. You get dragged through court and are put through a grueling process and even if you are found not guilty of a criminal offense you can still be summoned to civil court. However, I'm not an attorney and will not go into legal ramifications.
My second point is that if I have a bad guy at gun point I would never holster and re-engage the suspect in a physical altercation. This is never a good idea (in my opinion) and can only lead to a bad ending. This brings me to my third and final point.
Although, situations such as this tend to move exceptionally fast and often many actions are the work of muscle memory, one should consider if what the bad guy is stealing is worth the consequences in the long run. The perp in this situation took a pack of cigarettes. Think of all the good things in your life (family, friends, hobbies, your future) and then question if it's worth throwing it all away for a pack of cigarettes.
These are my opinions and are simply to provoke thought.
Thank You
This is the article involving the store owner's wife involved in a shooting incident at the same store back in February.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ed-robber/
*Not LTC related, rather handgun related.*
Convenience store owner received 8 years for shooting fleeing perp.
Although there are numerous things the clerk did that probably made the situation worse, there are many good lessons to be learned from this situation. Here are a few of the main points I took from this situation:
1. Demonstrates the possible consequences of using deadly force, and how using your handgun may not be the best choice in every situation.
2. Example why you should never re-holster and re-engage the bad guy.
3. Consider what you have to lose emotionally and mentally vs physically.
After reading articles such as this I like to imagine myself in the clerk's shoes. I feel that going through scenarios that have actually happened and breaking them down keeps a person's mind sharp.
My first observation, as stated above, is that there are consequences in using your firearm. Regardless of, whether or not you were justified. You get dragged through court and are put through a grueling process and even if you are found not guilty of a criminal offense you can still be summoned to civil court. However, I'm not an attorney and will not go into legal ramifications.
My second point is that if I have a bad guy at gun point I would never holster and re-engage the suspect in a physical altercation. This is never a good idea (in my opinion) and can only lead to a bad ending. This brings me to my third and final point.
Although, situations such as this tend to move exceptionally fast and often many actions are the work of muscle memory, one should consider if what the bad guy is stealing is worth the consequences in the long run. The perp in this situation took a pack of cigarettes. Think of all the good things in your life (family, friends, hobbies, your future) and then question if it's worth throwing it all away for a pack of cigarettes.
These are my opinions and are simply to provoke thought.
Thank You
This is the article involving the store owner's wife involved in a shooting incident at the same store back in February.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ed-robber/