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by bblhd672
Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook
Replies: 52
Views: 14593

Re: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook

Alf wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 11:56 am
SewTexas wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 10:58 pm too many in this thread are busy insulting FB and not seeing FB for the powerhouse it is. Obama won his Presidency because of his use of Social Media. There are many in Government who don't have SM accounts because of not wanting to deal with people who are anti-whatever....anti-"them". But there are many who do have FB, Twitter and such and use them Stickland is one, and he is on often and interacts with his followers. Donna Campbell simply posts and doesn't interact at all. Bonnen posts so seldom I forget his is even there.
You're correct but why should the facts matter to people reacting emotionally to their guy being sued?
:headscratch Who are you talking about? No one, I repeat no one, on this thread has embraced the behavior of Bonnen since he took office as Speaker. In fact, I challenge you to find a single forum member who has said anything positive about Bonnen as Speaker.
by bblhd672
Mon May 20, 2019 10:31 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook
Replies: 52
Views: 14593

Re: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook

The Annoyed Man wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:24 am I recognize the power of social media and used to be very active on it, but I have cut back my engagement in it by about 95% or more. I more or less walked away from Facebook over a year ago, and my life is better for it. I rarely even tweet anything anymore, and I had barely gotten started on instagram before I turned away from social media.

MY reasons for doing so fall into three basic categories:

1. Digital Security: For a bunch of techno-weenies, the folks at Facebook seem remarkably inept at securing their platform and protecting the privacy of their patrons. Twitter is only slightly better. And, the various platform providers' pleas about concern for our privacy are remarkably self-serving, as they’ll gladly sell your data for selectively partisan political purposes. I don’t mind seeing targeted advertising...after all, they ARE a business and are allowed to try and make money off of MY page views, same as any newspaper or magazine. But, I do not want my information either shared with or sold to 3rd parties - particularly that most grasping and intrusive 3rd party of all of them combined....the deep state's illegal and unconstitutional domestic intelligence gathering apparatus.

2. The Echo Chamber: There remains very little left of intelligent conversation on social media. One ends up either engaging with people who largely agree with oneself, or engaging with people whose life's purpose seems to be unfiltered cretinism. There is no REAL exchange of ideas, and very little attempt at reasoned persuasion. In the anonymity provided by the internet, people seem to feel free to be as toxic as they want, and they feel free to say things to others that IRL would end them up either in jail or the ER, because they know they can get away with it. I’m done with that.

3. Censorship: I don’t mind if a platform provider wants to apply censoring filters - as this forum right here does - which filter out certain profanities or insults, because it can help enforce civil discussion. What I CANNOT abide by is the censorship of ideas....particularly in the realms of politics, economics, the law, and religion/philosophy. THIS is exactly the disease infecting most of our institutions of higher learning today, and it is resulting in a dangerously disintegrating corruption of social stability. It’s an incontestable fact that censorship on social media platforms ignores word filtering, and is absolutely partisan in favor of leftist politics, leftist economics, leftist legal theory, and leftist secularism.

In fact, social media might have been a less toxic influence on society if it had come of age 50 years ago, back when people understood self-restraint, had brains, and knew how to use them. Today, all social media does is to provide a platform for people to display and boast about their shallow worlds, various depravities, and self obsessions - present company excluded, of course.

Yes, social media can be a powerful too. So can be manipulating the energy of the atom. It’s what we do with it that counts; and what we’ve done with social media is to build social atomic bombs.

I choose to (mostly) avoid participating in any of it. These days, I sometimes check in to Facebook to see what family members or close friends are up to. But I have very little to say myself on any of these platforms. Mostly, nobody's listening anyway.
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by bblhd672
Sat May 18, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook
Replies: 52
Views: 14593

Re: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook

O.F.Fascist wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 7:07 am
bblhd672 wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 6:47 am
AJSully421 wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 1:18 am All of you older guys spouting “but it is only Facebook” are extremely and insanely naive. You are projecting your own dislike of social media onto everyone.

Anyone who remotely understands the concept of “winning hearts and minds” sees Facebook for the incredibly important cyber battlefield that it is.

Just because you are old and don’t understand it, doesn’t make it horrible.

Carry on yelling at clouds...
I’m sure insulting those of us who disagree with you isn’t going to “win our hearts and minds.”
Perhaps not, but often in a debate the point isn't to win over the person you are debating but to win over the people who might be watching. In the presidential debates Trump didn't win over Hillary, but he sure as hell won over others. Being able to criticize Bonnen and others like him won't win him over, but it might be able to get others to oppose him or at least stop supporting him.
But insulting people who already agree with you that Bonner has revealed himself as aligning with the left isn’t helpful. I don’t recall anyone posting on this thread supporting Bonner. It’s our disdain for the tactics of TCGR and OCT you hold against us.
by bblhd672
Sat May 18, 2019 6:47 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook
Replies: 52
Views: 14593

Re: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook

AJSully421 wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 1:18 am All of you older guys spouting “but it is only Facebook” are extremely and insanely naive. You are projecting your own dislike of social media onto everyone.

Anyone who remotely understands the concept of “winning hearts and minds” sees Facebook for the incredibly important cyber battlefield that it is.

Just because you are old and don’t understand it, doesn’t make it horrible.

Carry on yelling at clouds...
I’m sure insulting those of us who disagree with you isn’t going to “win our hearts and minds.”
by bblhd672
Fri May 17, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook
Replies: 52
Views: 14593

Re: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook

AJSully421 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 3:05 pm
bblhd672 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 2:51 pm
O.F.Fascist wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 2:02 pm
C-dub wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 1:52 pm
Deltaboy wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 1:43 pm Bonner and his wife are Proven Liars and deserve this Lawsuit! :tiphat:
I agree that they are liars, but what does that have to do with this lawsuit?
By picking and choosing which members of the public are heard from on a public page they continue to lie by controlling the narrative.
But it's not a government website and subject to the 1st Amendment. Now if he had a "Speaker of the House" page on a texas.gov website and was blocking/deleting those who disagree I think this would be a worthy suit.

As far a CJG - his Fakebook page is a treasure trove of immature postings...who would take him seriously as a elected official in Texas?
In Davison V. Randall, the 4th decided that an elected official's social media, if it is used for ANY public purposes, and even a single post qualifies, then it is treated the same as a .gov website, and banning even one individual is a violation.

A person can be awake in civics class all that they want... but if you do not keep up with case law, then you are going to be left sounding unintelligent and uninformed.
I stand corrected by case law of Davison v Randall.
by bblhd672
Fri May 17, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook
Replies: 52
Views: 14593

Re: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook

O.F.Fascist wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 2:02 pm
C-dub wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 1:52 pm
Deltaboy wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 1:43 pm Bonner and his wife are Proven Liars and deserve this Lawsuit! :tiphat:
I agree that they are liars, but what does that have to do with this lawsuit?
By picking and choosing which members of the public are heard from on a public page they continue to lie by controlling the narrative.
But it's not a government website and subject to the 1st Amendment. Now if he had a "Speaker of the House" page on a texas.gov website and was blocking/deleting those who disagree I think this would be a worthy suit.

As far a CJG - his Fakebook page is a treasure trove of immature postings...who would take him seriously as a elected official in Texas?
by bblhd672
Fri May 17, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook
Replies: 52
Views: 14593

Re: Speaker Bonnen sued in Federal Court for 1st amendment violations, blocking critics on Facebook

joe817 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:40 am
C-dub wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:31 am I’m no fan of Bonnen, but Grisham can’t be serious about this. What a nuisance! And that’s my nice word for him on this forum.
:iagree: They are doing everything they can to stay in the limelight. What is it going to take for them to realize they are doing more harm than good in advancing 2A rights?
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