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joe817 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:18 pm
What was the name of that Tom Cruise movie where he arrested people who have the ability to break the law in the future? I think the nazi's did the same thing in the mid 1930's. And that was called persecution.

Minority Report. Based upon a 1956 short story "The Minority Report" by Phillip Dick.

rotor wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 pm We all have to be realistic that there are people that should not have firearms.

We also need to be realistic that there are people who should not have free speech or practice their religion , should not be able to vote, should not be allowed due process, should not be exempt from cruel and unusual punishment, should not be allowed to operate motor vehicle, should not be allowed to procreate, should be enslaved.....are you catching on yet?

You want to single out one God given right to self defense and say some people shouldn’t have it. There are people exercising some of the right and privileges I listed above that are far more dangerous to their fellow citizens than gun owners.

You are correct though that there are some truly mentally disturbed and deranged people who should have their rights removed by due process. And not just their right to keep and bear arms for self defense. Due process, stringent due process with the greatest concern that an individual’s rights not be restricted until he/she has had the determination made by more than a judge acting on an accusation.

US Senate Bill 7
Extreme Risk Protection Order and Violence Prevention Act of 2019
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s7/text

Chuck Baldwin’s response:
https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/t ... Et-Al.aspx

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has announced that the Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to begin conducting hearings next Tuesday, March 26, on Senate Bill 7, the Extreme Risk Protection Order and Violence Prevention Act of 2019—otherwise known as a national “red flag” gun confiscation bill. The bill was introduced in the Senate by Marco Rubio (R-FL). If this gun confiscation bill passes the U.S. Senate, it will most certainly pass the Democrat-controlled U.S. House of Representatives, and President Donald Trump absolutely WILL sign it into law.

Bushwhacker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:47 pm

jason812 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:06 am I wonder how many had their guns returned... I'm going to guess very few.

That's another good reason to have a cache somewhere in the current environment.

At least a pretty good idea what part of the lake you had that boating accident in when a bunch of guns went overboard

Report: More Than 1,700 Red Flag Orders in 2018
https://freebeacon.com/issues/report-mo ... s-in-2018/

Brandon Combs, president of the Firearms Policy Coalition, said his group "has consistently opposed ‘red flag' legislation at every level of government because they are a truly dangerous, unjust, unconstitutional, and immoral policy."

He said the laws punish people who haven't yet committed a crime and can create deadly situations when police attempt to confiscate firearms from those subject to an order.

"These Minority Report-style ‘pre-crime' laws target people for disarmament and seizure of their property before they even commit a crime," Combs told the Free Beacon. "In America, we have a foundational presumption that people are innocent until they are proven guilty of a crime. But ‘red flag' confiscation laws turn our very constitutional principles on their head and make everyone presumptively guilty unless they can prove they are not."