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gljjt wrote:I want so called constitutional carry. And I think Texas will get there. But this isn't the session. What I don't want is to use pro-2nd amendment political capital pushing a position this session that had no realistic chance of passing but does have high probability to negatively impact what I consider the best bill since the original CHL law more than 20 years ago. And that is reduction in the off limits locations. Full court press on the locations bill this session and full court press on constitutional or unlicensed carry on the first session that has a realistic chance of Passage.

Jusme wrote:I fully agree with Charles,
While we may want "Constitutional" or "unrestricted" carry in Texas, there is still not enough support in the Legislature for such a measure. Charles, has a much better idea of the pulse of the law makers than I do, but the ones I have spoken with have listed the myriad of problems even among their own constituents, with getting it introduced.
One of the first things they have said to me, is that even among conservatives, and conservative gun owners, there is still a lot of fear that "some idiot" will do something to make gun owners look bad, which will start to reverse the progress we have made in the past 20+ years, secondly, there is still the old school way of thinking even among conservative, native Texans, due to years of being indoctrinated that way, that rifles and shotguns for hunting are fine, but handguns are only for killing people. Therefore they are, even after years of evidence to change their minds, still of the mind set that only cops and criminals carry handguns.

These are the people that go to polls, and vote, so they do have to respect and defend the positions of folks like this.

Thirdly, and this is only my observations, with the large influx of people from other states, mostly left leaning, the issues we hold dear, are not even on their radar, so they will not automatically vote for representatives who try to protect or promote 2A rights. We must be vigilant to not lose any ground, but we must also understand that change takes time, and while we are currently riding a tide of conservative values, Texas has not always swung that way, and is very close to having the tide go back out very quickly.

anygunanywhere wrote:

bblhd672 wrote:

Lynyrd wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

Lynyrd wrote:I personally feel better knowing that an LTC holder has been thoroughly vetted by the state before they are allowed to carry in public.

I know I would feel better knowing voters were properly vetted before voting and if journalists were properly vetted before doing whatever journalists do.

That's fair, and I agree. The only thing that gives me pause is the mentally ill, violent felons, drug addicts, etc. Do they have a 2A right? Should they be allowed to carry in public?

Many voters and "journalists" are mentally ill, violent felons, drug addicts, etc. and have no restrictions on voting or lying to the people.

My comments were posted with just a hint of sarcasm.

Lynyrd wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

Lynyrd wrote:I personally feel better knowing that an LTC holder has been thoroughly vetted by the state before they are allowed to carry in public.

I know I would feel better knowing voters were properly vetted before voting and if journalists were properly vetted before doing whatever journalists do.

That's fair, and I agree. The only thing that gives me pause is the mentally ill, violent felons, drug addicts, etc. Do they have a 2A right? Should they be allowed to carry in public?