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Bottom line= Walmart employees generally make you want to

C-dub wrote:That's interesting. I can't recall anyone scanning my DL before. They simply look at the DOB to verify my age if they actually request my ID. With all the grey in my beard now they mostly just look at me to verify my age. However, a woman at Walmart a few weeks ago did ask for my ID and as I was getting it out asked if I looked under 40. They used to have a sign that said they would ID if you looked under 40. She said tat they've been told to ID everyone buying alcohol now. So, I told her that was good news and that now a I could stop adding all this grey to keep from being carded.

Interestingly though, I purchased some shotgun shells yesterday and when the register asked if I was over 21 all the cashier did was look at me. No request for ID.

Well, alcohol is more dangerous than shotguns!

WinoVeritas wrote:No brainer from my POV - DL has birth date in bold - CHL/LTC does not show birth date. While both acceptable ID, both are not when age is in question.

My LTC has date of birth printed on it. No idea if the old CHL has DOB printed on it.

gljjt wrote:It is state law, but I wouldn't take it out on the cashier (not saying the OP did). The store is responsible for training them. It's a management issue not an employee issue. I wouldn't expect an hourly clerk to know every law related to ID. Even if store policy is wrong, I would anticipate the employee following the policy. They don't know if the customer is right or the store is right. If the store has a policy that says no to a LTC as an ID anything more than politely informing the cashier as an FYI is unfair to the employee. Take it offline with the manager. Just my opinion.

You're right. Taking it up with the manager can also reveal whether it is a real policy that needs to be addressed, or just one instituted by an anti-gun cashier with an agenda.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... BC.506.htm
BUSINESS AND COMMERCE CODE
TITLE 11. PERSONAL IDENTITY INFORMATION
SUBTITLE A. IDENTIFYING INFORMATION
Chapter 506, consisting of Secs. 506.001, was added by Acts 2015, 84th Leg., R.S., Ch. 794 (H.B. 2739), Sec. 1.
For another Chapter 506, consisting of Secs. 506.001 to 506.006, added by Acts 2015, 84th Leg., R.S., Ch. 953 (S.B. 1213), Sec. 1, see Sec. 506.001 et seq., post.

CHAPTER 506. CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSES AS VALID FORMS OF PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION
Sec. 506.001. CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE AS VALID PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION. (a) A person may not deny the holder of a concealed handgun license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, access to goods, services, or facilities, except as provided by Section 521.460, Transportation Code, or in regard to the operation of a motor vehicle, because the holder has or presents a concealed handgun license rather than a driver's license or other acceptable form of personal identification.
(b) This section does not affect:
(1) the requirement under Section 411.205, Government Code, that a person subject to that section present a driver's license or identification certificate in addition to a concealed handgun license; or
(2) the types of identification required under federal law to access airport premises or pass through airport security.
Added by Acts 2015, 84th Leg., R.S., Ch. 794 (H.B. 2739), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2015.


I haven't been able to find anything about penalties to business for refusing LTC as acceptable ID.

imkopaka wrote:I was in Lubbock a few days ago and while at Wal-mart I had a bottle of wine among my purchases. When asked for ID, I presented the first ID in my wallet, which was my LTC. The employee stated that she could not accept it as a valid ID and I needed to display my drivers license. I informed her that the law states that LTC's are valid IDs, but she said she was just following policy and could be fired for accepting it. It was my understanding that according to H.B. 2739, she was not allowed to refuse it as a valid form of ID. Is there something I could do to make sure this isn't a problem in the future? Should I contact the manager? Is it even a battle worth fighting?

Wal-Mart and all other companies doing business in Texas cannot have "store policies" that are contrary to state law.

I'd never accept the word of a Wal-Mart cashier about company and/or store policies - after all most of them cannot make change without the POS system telling them how much to give back.

House Bill 2739 http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 02739F.htm

Effective: September 1, 2015

Caption: Relating to the use of a concealed handgun license as valid proof of personal identification.

Amends the Business and Commerce Code to require businesses to accept a LTC as a valid form of personal identification for access to goods, services, or facilities.
Does not affect laws requiring a driver license to operate a motor vehicle.
Does not effect the existing requirement to present a driver license when renting a car.
Does not affect the type of identification required under federal law to access airport premises or to pass through airport security.

Personally, I'd have asked to see a manager and made him/her aware that their employee is in violating state law. Store policies do not allow for violation of state laws.