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TLE2 wrote:Just my two cents, but I have both a loaded .45 and a tactical shotgun. I don't load the shotgun because I can't secure in a "quick get" fashion, yet.

The sound of the slide being racked on the 45 is pretty intimidating too. (Istore in with a loaded magazine but not racked).

But... even though the spread on buck isn't large, it's larger than a 45 bullet. If they're coming in, I'd want to hit 'em with everything I had.

But... since I've never faced that situation, I may be wrong.

/mas

Stupid wrote:

fickman wrote: One problem. . . most semi-auto shotguns are unreliable during an actual emergency to cycle properly. They are sensitive to the ammo (need lots of recoil) and angle. I'd never trust one for life-and-death situations.

Modern semi-auto is not unreliable.

When using a pump:

1. your pumping sound gives away your position and might cause your target to fire at the sound
2. pump action requires rigorous practice so that under stress you wouldn't under-pump and jam your gun - this happens A LOT
3. when working with your pump action, without adequate practice, it moves your gun away from the target.
4. some may even forget to pump in the adrenaline high.
5. recoil is much worse than semi
6. follow up shots and speed of shooting are seriously impaired because of having to work with the pump. Given the choice, no self-respecting shooter would ever use a pump when shooting for speed. Watch any Skeet Shooting video on youtube.

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Still don't believe me? Watch the movie The Matrix Lobby Shooting scene below. Should any of these police officers have used a semi-auto, Neo would be a piece of dead meat. Watch how slow the guy shooting the pump action shotgun.

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Still not convinced? Just think hard about why all the armies of the world transited from single shot to bolt action, to semi-auto to full auto on their rifles. Why do they choose full auto over semi over single shot? Three reasons: speed of shooting, ability to keep the gun on target and simplicity of operating the semi and full auto action.

atxgun wrote:

AndyC wrote:A magic boomstick it is not.

That's not what Army Of Darkness taught me.

Hos wrote:All good points. I am considering the Taurus Judge with the portability of a pistol with a shotgun bang. I wouldn't say it's the "best of both worlds" and some will consider it a novelty but it has its place. Unlike a shotgun, it's made to spread the buckshot over a shorter distance too. Might make a good BUG to the shotgun.

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Maybe put shot shells as the first 3 rounds then close the deal with the .45 in the other 2 shots.

GrayHawk wrote:I am just wondering why I would need a short barelled HD shotgun with ghost ring or halo sights, pistol grip stock, mounted laser and flashlight, heat shroud, sling, saddle with 6 extra rounds, with mag extension bringing my in gun round count to eight when I have an effective nightstand gun? Are there that many home invasions which involve multiple intruders or massive gun battles? Is this just a fad or something? If I needed a shotgun for protection in my home, would my mossberg I use for hunting work just as well? Don't bash, I am trying to figure out if I am equipped wrong for home protection or if I need a tricked out $600 dollar shotgun at the house too.

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