WHAAAAAT? If a firearm is presented, unless it has a blaze orange tip and is a toy its already a threat!locknload wrote:After this happened a few years ago, at Luby's, I gave it a lot of thought. That's why I say, leave if you can. Those who left, lived. Fight ONLY if they force you to. That way, if someone else gets hurt, at least you have a defense that you had no choice or you would have been dead, too. For me, they have to pretty much fire the first shot or turn a gun on one of my family members. If they turned the gun on me, I would wait until they turned in another direction to react. Otherwise, you don't have a choice in the matter. You're dead, when you go for your gun. In other words, I have to be convinced that the guns are not just props and there are no innocents in the way, before I produce my gun. Then, they have to make a first move, before I would even think about firing. The couple on their knees will recover without my help, as long as the guy didn't fire his gun, first. There's no sense escalating an already bad situation by being trigger-happy. If I err, I want to err on the side of caution. IMHO.dukalmighty wrote:Only problem with that is you are responsible for all your bullets and who they impact,your bullet kills an innocent person you're facing manslaughter or worseAEA wrote:Had I been there, as soon as they forced the couple to their knees, I would be shooting (if collateral hits could be minimized). If they actually shot someone, then I would be shooting regardless of collateral hits.
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