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nightdragon wrote:It's a sad day when young people choose to throw their lives away...but glad another young man and many more possible victims were sparred. I love my sks and don't know his motives for using it...but I've seen was a .45acp actually does to the human body at 5,10, and 20 yards compared to the 7.62x39 and .223 and I would disagree with you guys about the rifle dealing more damage. The slower moving .45acp at close ranges usually doesn't pass through the target and has a better chance of transmitting it's "force" to the target...whereas the 7.62x39 would more then likely shoot through the target at close quarters....but thats just me over analyzing things lol.....got too much time on my hands....I need me a job lol

I hate to disagree..but at 5,10, and 20 yards a rifle is IMMENSLY more devistating than even the most powerful of handguns

Simple science and fact have proven otherwise

I know its nowhere near scientific or even viable..but seeing what different firearms are capable is a good start

http://www.theboxotruth.com/

No situation will ever equal..but one thing rings true brother...a rifle is for fighting...a pistol is for fighting your way to a rifle

Yep..Hi Point pistol (either a 9mm or .45, the .380 has a white stripe down the side [they are very inexpensive..but very effective]) and a stock SKS





The SKS is NOT even close to being classified as an "assault rifle" with its 10 round fixed magazine and NO handgrip, and the bayonette has been removed (illegal to have one anyway!)

In a strict definition, a firearm must have all of the following five characteristics to qualify as an assault rifle:[1][2][3]

* Is a carbine sized individual weapon with provision to be fired from a shouldered position.

Barrel length is usually 400 mm to 500 mm (16� to 20�)

* Is capable of selective fire.
* Fires from a locked breech.
* Utilizes an intermediate powered-cartridge.
* Ammunition is supplied from a large capacity detachable box magazine.
The following features are commonly found on assault rifles, but those are not exclusive to assault rifles, as those features are shared with many submachine guns, battle rifles, automatic rifles and machine guns:

* Protruding pistol grip.
* Folding, retractable or otherwise collapsible shoulder stock.
* Bipod
* Muzzle device like a muzzle brake or a flash suppressor.


Most common is a capacity of 30 rounds, sometimes 20 rounds.

I wonder if he could sue for libel or defamation of character?

I too am getting tired of this blatant anti gun/stupid labeling of "assault rifles"

Funny in the news report the officer called it a rifle, and the kids are possible suspects in other crimes in the area

I can almost bet that they WEREN'T legally purchased

NcongruNt wrote: All other things being equal, I'd prefer a rifle over a pistol in a firefight any day. A rifle round does devastating damage in comparison to a handgun round, and you're much more likely to stop someone with a COM rifle shot than a handgun shot in the same place. The velocities at work in rifle rounds do immense amounts of damage with the shock waves they create inside the body. Rather than simply tear holes through someone, they tend to rupture cellular membranes, liquefying the tissue around them and creating a huge wound cavity. It is common to hear of someone surviving a head wound from a pistol, but it very rare that someone comes away alive from a rifle round to the head.

+1 some rifle cartridges at close range have more impact energy than a shotgun [at the same range], the AR for example under 100 yards packs INSANE amounts of energy but due to the very light projectile it loosed much of its energy past a few hundred yards, the 7.62 doesn't as much (standard 7.62x39 grain rounds are approx 122 grains)

Plus the old adage: A pistol is a what you use to fight your way to a rifle