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Well some of your suspicions may have been true! I went in today to have another chat with the owner and showed him the email from TABC. He read it, and without going into all the details and back and forth, he basically said he would feel more comfortable leaving the signs up. When I asked if it was because of the TABC or his own opinions about citizens carrying weapons legally he said he didn't feel like talking about it anymore and needed to get back to his paperwork. To which I said, "thank you for your time, and this is the last you will see of me and many of my friends," and walked out.

Still not 100% sure if it's his opinion or if the idle threats really happened, but either way 30.06 = no money.

TABC response - Just as I thought it would read. But at least I can take this to the owner and if he keeps the signs up, shame on him.



Hello Addison,

There is no TABC policy or practice requiring any business owner to post a 30.06 or 30.07 sign. As an off-premise location (meaning alcohol is sold for customers to consume elsewhere), a liquor store would only be required to post the blue Handgun Warning Sign, which states that unlicensed possession of a weapon on the premises is a felony (meaning that licensed handgun owners can bring their weapons onto the premises).

TABC does not regulate nor advise on the posting of 30.06 and 30.07 signs. Businesses may optionally post those signs if the permit holder wishes, but they would not be required to do so by this agency.

If the business owner feels a TABC employee violated this policy, please ask him to contact our Office of Professional Responsibility by phone at (512) 206-3405 or by e-mail at opr@tabc.texas.gov. This will allow our investigators to determine if an employee acted improperly and take action if necessary.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,


[Name Redacted]
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission
5806 Mesa Drive
Austin, Texas 78731

Oldgringo wrote:

addison_bryant wrote:

WTR wrote:Parts of the story does not jive. It may be store manager shining you on.

Totally agree, but he knows me and seems rather honest.

Curious what part(s) sounded strange?

Name names and places so that the TABC inspector can be identified?

Well he was already _______ nervous just talking to me about it. Not the most go getter fella I've ever met. So I didn't even bother asking for names.

WTR wrote:Parts of the story does not jive. It may be store manager shining you on.

Totally agree, but he knows me and seems rather honest.

Curious what part(s) sounded strange?

Not a bad idea. I'll ask the next time I'm in another store.

As for this one, after I deliver the TABC response we will see if he takes down the signs. He knows he doesn't have to have them by his own admission just said he was scared of the inspector. Either way, if he doesn't take down the signs it will be my last visit, TABC fault or not.

Keith B wrote:So, the state doe not sell 30.06 or 30.07 signs to my knowledge. Can you post a photo of the signs he 'bought from the state'?

I'll post it tomorrow.

So i went into a liquor store today and had a conversation with the owner. After which I sent this email to the TABC 'question' and 'internal affairs' email addresses. I will post the reply if I get one. My idea here was to take the response to the business owner and let him use it against the bully TABC agent if he chooses. Makes me sick -

Here is the email I sent to TABC -


Hello and thank you for your time. This email is in response to a conversation I had today with an owner/manager of a local liquor store that I visit near my neighborhood. I live in north central Houston. I walked in today to pick up an item and noticed out front in his window he had posted a 30.06 and 30.07 sign advising me that I was not allowed to carry my firearm into his shop. While it is his right to do so, I disarmed and walked in anyway to ask him why he decided to post said sign.

When I ask he said this (and I am paraphrasing) - "One of the local inspectors told me I had to put those up, and I told him I was not required to and didn't want to. Then the inspector said 'maybe it's not the law' but that I 'need to anyway' and I told him I didn't want to. He then said 'well they better be there by my next visit'."

The owner then went on to explain to me how he understands the signs and does not agree with them being posted in his store, but felt threatened by the inspector when confronted and didn't want to cause any trouble with his livelihood. He said he posted some signs and a few days later the inspector came back and told him his signs were not legal and that he would have to buy the correct signs from the state. Which he did as well and posted those.

My question to you - if this the policy or practice of your commission to force, convince, persuade, or otherwise push any opinion on a business that otherwise would not post a conceal/open carry sign? I understand that your officers are entitled to their opinion on the matter, but to express this opinion while operating within their assigned duties of the state is not fair (or legal) and should be addressed. An opinion expressed by an authority of the Texas government, while performing their duties, will to most people be interpreted as the law.

Thank you for your time and I look forward to your timely response. Please feel free to contact me through this email if you have any further questions.

Addison Bryant