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seamusTX wrote:

shaggydog wrote:Taz - I agree that humans do, and always will, make mistakes. That is a given. There has not been another perfect person on this earth in the last 2007 years.

Didn't He have something to say about repentence and forgiveness?

I'm sure the person involved in this incident paid plenty for lawyers and possibly medical treatment, and has repented plenty.

- Jim

HE did indeed and if I were anything remotely like HIM, and I truely wish that I could be, I would be able to do the same more readily. I don't know the circumstances of this particular incident but if it was minor, and it sounds like it was, then you are probably right in that he has anguished enough. I stand by my inital premise however.

Feeling like a very old shaggydog today.

Taz - I agree that humans do, and always will, make mistakes. That is a given. There has not been another perfect person on this earth in the last 2007 years. I'll make this one point and then stop as we seem to be a bit off topic - Perhaps it is my old age/seen too much/becoming too cynical/just palin tired/etc. showing but I seem to see more and more of the "he made a mistake so let's give him a break" attitude with little, if any, initial consequenses. This ranks up there with the "don't spank your child as it will only anesthesize them to violence thereby promoting their proclivity to violence" mind set IMO. Intentional/unintentional doesn't matter. Once you pick up the weapon you have automatically accepted the fact, whether you want to or not, that you are totally and completely responsible for what happens with that weapon and you should neither expect nor be afforded any type of rationalization for your actions should they be careless.

Enough of an old man's rants.

Taz65TX wrote:I can understand your feeling on this if he intentionally brought a loaded gun into G.R.B.
But, what if he didn’t, what if he had 2 guns that are similar? And one of them gun that he brought to G.R.B. to have worked done? What if? From what I’ve heard from the attorney Don Philips & Tom Nixon, there were 2 Glock 23 that he had with him. He had forgotten about the other one and things happen from there. There’s still allot of unknown. I don’t think anyone who wants to shoot themselves in the hand intentionally.

Do you remember the ex-basketball coach of the Houston Rockets, Rudy T.? He was caught for having a loaded gun in his carryon luggage at the airport. He got off on that. He forgot.

You don’t think it can happen to you? Here’s one:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/sho ... p?t=254025

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that I Forgot is a defense if a NG results in a death or serious injury. If we accept the right to own and carry a weapon then we, by default, must accept the consequenses of our actions i.e the responsabilities that come with the exercise of any freedom. Therein lies some of the problems with the mindset of the liberal. They want the freedoms but are unwilling to accept that one has to be PERSONALLY responsible for their exercise.