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crazy2medic wrote:I like the idea of requiring a government entities to apply to the State for authorization to post 06/07 compliant signs, just add businesses to the legislation, make it so they have to apply for a permit or certificate from the State to post, one for 06 and one for 07, the State charges a processing fee for each type of sign, $40 for each type of sign, $80 for 06 and 07, the State send them a certificate they can take to any print shop and have their signs made, the certificate is good for four years, the date of expiration is printed on the sign in one inch block letters, basically make it as much a hassle for posting as it is a hassle for getting a LTC. My 2cents

Jusme wrote:Another thought along those lines, is that if a business is properly posted 30.06 and 30.07 then that means it is universal, even though it only affects LTC holders. But say you have a friend, who is in a position of authority at that particular business, he knows you are a LTC holder, and he says that "you" can CC there. How can someone give effective consent when they have already posted their effective notice of prohibition. It is not like effective consent to search, which can be revoked, but is is a direct violation to the letter and intent of the law, but there are only penalties involved for the LTC holder.
Just more random thoughts bouncing around in all of the extra space between my ears.

Jusme wrote:That's just it, they don't "have" to post signs to provide effective notice. It can be verbal, or written. It also leaves open the possibility for it to be arbitrary. Example: I walk in wearing a "Come and Take It" shirt, camo pants, and a 2A tactical cap, with my gun clearly visible in a skull and crossbones kydex holster, there is no signage so I haven't violated any laws yet. I'm met at the door by a security guard/manager who tells me " You can't bring your gun in here" I have been given effective notice. You come in right after I leave, and you are wearing a button down shirt, slacks and have your gun in a high and tight leather holster that matches you belt and shoes, the same guard/manager also knows you are carrying but you don't appear to be as scary looking so he doesn't say anything to you as you conduct your business. Discrimination? The only defining characteristic between us was the way we were dressed, but he uses the effective notice only on one of us. I don't know of that scenario occurring, but the possibility is there. JMHO

AJSully421 wrote:

Jusme wrote:It becomes a slippery slope due to the fact that the left wants to do the same thing to gun manufacturers. The only way I could see something like this working were if it was a location that a person must enter by law, but those would usually be government facilities. If a person has a choice not to enter a posted business, then it would be hard to hold them liable for someone else's actions. So far I have not run across a 30.06 posted business, that I don't have another option as to where to take my business.
What I think would be a better option would be as a discrimination issue whereby someone with an LTC, was being discriminated against, just like a licensed beautician would not be allowed to carry scissors, or a chef not being able to carry their knife. Either of those things could be used as a defensive weapon and they would obviously be trained to use them, so why only licensed handgun carriers?JMHO

Good point. "Equality" is what got the LGBTBBQOMG group what they wanted. I am going to start screaming "discrimination" based on my exercising an established civil right.