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by Flightmare
Thu May 03, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Company Truck Carry
Replies: 24
Views: 5579

Re: Company Truck Carry

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
rotor wrote:Just to clarify, what specifically are they saying you can't carry? A handgun, all firearms, all weapons?

Also, we are still waiting for anyone to produce an insurance form that says the policy forbids LTC carry. Many claim this but nobody so far as I know can show such wording at least in Texas.

Most banks that I know of allow concealed carry FYI.

I don't think that you could win a lawsuit against the company if you were injured because you were "forced" to disarm. This is the same argument that you could sue a store that 30.06/07 posts and you were injured while shopping. Your choice to work for them or shop at the store. The consideration though is the possible carry of something like a Kel-Tec Sub2000 which technically is a rifle and this goes back to my first question, what are they saying you can't carry? I personally think it would be a pain to cart a Sub2000 around but I have one, it is a potent weapon, it is a rifle and not a handgun, and you "may" not be in violation of company policy with it. 33 round Glock mag is probably sufficient. I wouldn't tell them about it if the only thing they have banned is handguns.

Ideal thing in your situation may be a job change.
I agree that you need to consider your options based on exactly what they have banned.

If they have banned all "weapons" (and defined this broadly), then you may need to find another job.

If they have banned all "firearms", then you might consider a good knife, pepper spray, and Taser as options.

If they have banned all "handguns", then you could consider the Sub-2000 and other options, depending on the set-up of your truck. This would also be the only "ban" where 30.06 / 30.07 is applicable. Everything else would require properly worded trespass warnings (not just a notice the items are banned) before you are in actual legal jeopardy.

As for the negligence argument, I just don't think that a company is absolved of all potential negligence claims simply because their employees could have chosen not to work there, or their customers could have chosen not to shop there. The passengers and flight attendants on the Southwest Airlines flight that recently got a hole mid-flight will be suing Southwest even though they could have chosen to work somewhere else or to fly a different airline. If they can show that Southwest was negligent by improperly maintaining that plane, then Southwest will be paying up.
Indeed, I wonder if OSHA regulations could be taken into consideration for the employer failing to provide a safe working environment.
by Flightmare
Thu May 03, 2018 11:57 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Company Truck Carry
Replies: 24
Views: 5579

Re: Company Truck Carry

BaleKlocoon wrote:I've also been told verbally, because I fought for them to change the policy in a meeting. They said they agree with me but their insurance company won't allow it, or will charge too much of a premium or something. I think they are worried about the liability if we leave the gun in the truck when we go into a bank or somewhere else we can't carry, and someone breaks into THEIR company truck and steals the gun and commits a crime with it.

Oh well, I guess it's pepper spray or finding a company that supports my natural rights.
I wonder what the result/cost of a lawsuit would be, if an employee suffered an injury or death because the company forced them to disarm.

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