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stevie_d_64 wrote:

"18,000 rounds is more than the normal purchase but not out of the line that we do see on a regular basis," he said.

Just about as stupid a statement I've heard of in a while...I'm glad it wasn't me this time...

So If I go out and buy copious amounts of ammunition, say 15K rounds...Is that going to make me pop up on someones radar???

Probably not. I've had the UPS driver deliver 10k rounds at one shot. I know lots of people who make "opportunity buys", especially of milsurp ammo. They might sell it later after the price goes up, or just hoard it. 18,000 rounds is just a good weekend for them.

Note that this guy is in jail just for having ammunition, not guns.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... 7709010540

September 1, 2007

Police raid home, find 80,000 rounds
Man stockpiling ammunition and other items was sent for psychological evaluation in April

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Authorities removed almost 80,000 rounds of ammunition from the home of a man they said had been stockpiling supplies in the belief the world was on the brink of economic collapse and violence.

Kevin W. Rieder, 38, who was committed to a mental facility for about two weeks last spring after he was diagnosed as paranoid, was charged with illegal possession of ammunition in violation of an earlier restraining order taken out by an ex-girlfriend, Assistant U.S. Attorney Donald Schmidt said.
Receipts indicated Rieder had bought large amounts of 9 mm, .22-caliber, .38-caliber, 12-gauge and 20-gauge ammunition, according to court documents.

No specific weapons were identified in the documents as being in Rieder's possession, although an affidavit stated that Rieder had told an ammunition dealer and another man that he had at least one AK-47 assault weapon at home.

Rieder will remain in custody until a bail and detention hearing Tuesday, Schmidt said.

South Bend police and agents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives blocked off streets around Rieder's small two-story home for six hours Wednesday while they executed a search warrant and arrested Rieder. The raid followed a six-month investigation, Schmidt said.

During a search of Rieder's home in April, ATF agents noticed large amounts of ammunition, radios, car parts, batteries, plastic sheeting, flashlights, water and other items. They also found several 25-gallon drums of gasoline in his garage.

Rieder, who told authorities, "You just have to protect yourself sometimes," was committed for a psychological evaluation at that time and later released after a hearing at which it was determined he was not a danger to himself.

Rieder bought 18,000 rounds of ammunition in three visits to the Midwest
Gun Exchange store in Mishawaka, store owner Brad Foster said.
"18,000 rounds is more than the normal purchase but not out of the line that we do see on a regular basis," he said.

Early last month, his former girlfriend filed a complaint that Rieder had violated the protective order, which allowed authorities to seek the warrant for his arrest.

If the conviction involved any form of violence or threat of violence against a spouse or domestic partner, he is disqualified from owning any firearms. Even if they don't call it "domestic violence" on his record.

Thanks to Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), the GCA was amended in 1996 to cover any conviction which:
"has, as an element, the use or attempted use of physical force, or the threatened use of a deadly weapon, committed by a current or former spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the victim as a spouse, parent, or guardian, or by a person similarly situated to a spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim."

It's a permanent bar on owning firearms or ammunition, even ex post facto.