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by KBCraig
Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:50 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Trespassers this weekend
Replies: 50
Views: 11653

Renegade wrote:
KBCraig wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:Just a thought. You had words with the guys and told them to leave. They said make me, so you went and got a gun.

That could easily be taken as threatening.
Trespassers (outnumbering you 2-1) refusing to leave and displaying a hostile attitude is a potentially threatening situation. Retrieving a means of self defense is not threatening, it's prudent.
Only if you stay and amp up the conversation. The "reasonable" thing to do is call police and wait. Going to retrieve a gun, takes it to a new level.
He called the police and waited inside his house. That hardly "amps up the conversation".
by KBCraig
Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:23 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Trespassers this weekend
Replies: 50
Views: 11653

txinvestigator wrote:
KBCraig wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:Just a thought. You had words with the guys and told them to leave. They said make me, so you went and got a gun.

That could easily be taken as threatening.
Trespassers (outnumbering you 2-1) refusing to leave and displaying a hostile attitude is a potentially threatening situation. Retrieving a means of self defense is not threatening, it's prudent.

Making a display of retrieving the gun could be threatening, but the trespassers obviously didn't feel threatened, since they didn't leave until the police told them to (an hour later).
And I disagree. He KNEW they were AC repairmen, according to his post.
What are you disagreeing with? No one said he didn't know they were AC repairmen; he knew they were. He also KNEW they were trespassing, refusing to leave, and belligerent about it.

There is no shortage of people looking for a reason to get involved in a situation or grab that gun though.
You and I don't disagree on that point. The difference for me (and you, I suspect) is that we wouldn't have to retrieve a gun from the car -- we'd already be carrying one. That doesn't make us trigger-happy. It also doesn't make TexasJoe trigger-happy, it just makes him guilty of being slower to arm himself.
by KBCraig
Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:54 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Trespassers this weekend
Replies: 50
Views: 11653

txinvestigator wrote:Just a thought. You had words with the guys and told them to leave. They said make me, so you went and got a gun.

That could easily be taken as threatening.
Trespassers (outnumbering you 2-1) refusing to leave and displaying a hostile attitude is a potentially threatening situation. Retrieving a means of self defense is not threatening, it's prudent.

Making a display of retrieving the gun could be threatening, but the trespassers obviously didn't feel threatened, since they didn't leave until the police told them to (an hour later).

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