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7GenTex wrote:Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of "Burt's basement"............

"Why do you have cannon fuse?"
"For my cannon, of course!"

Skiprr wrote:I was thinking more of a vaulted, fire-proof, tornado-proof, safe room that's about 20'x40' and that serves as a combination wine cellar and gun display/storage room, with self-contained air system, a big-screen TV at one end, a gunsmithing/reloading station at the other, and a big ol' poker table in the middle...

Well, of course, so was I. But I was trying to be modest.

But if the lottery numbers are willing...

If anyone breaks into your home with the express purpose of stealing your guns, they will have the knowledge and equipment to get your guns.

Gun safes will only defeat thieves of opportunity. They make sure that a casual burglar can't use the tools he finds in your garage, to peel open your safe.

My personal plan, when I'm able to build or modify a house to my specs, is to have a hardened vault. Something nice and cozy as a den... say, 14x20. The guns will be in racks, or displayed if I like. There will be work benches and a reloading station. Probably a TV, comfortable seating, and adult beverages for the trusted few who know of its existence.

Entry will be disguised: a burglar in my basement would open a door, see a dingy boiler/air handler room, and go on his way. But if he'd bother to step inside, he'd see what was behind the open door: another door, behind which is the vault door.

It's all about deception.

Kevin

You know, even lightweight safes get heavy when they're full of guns, ammo, and bags of lead shot.