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- Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:31 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Here's a sad story. Is there a lesson?
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- Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:17 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Here's a sad story. Is there a lesson?
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Sorry, I was just using your "have more than one tool" line as a point to jump in. I agree, by the way. I didn't mean to imply that you're all in favor of cuffing people.flintknapper wrote:KBCraig wrote:flintknapper wrote:IMHO it is desirable to have more than one tool or skill.
I think something that has been overlooked in this discussion is the fact that handcuffing someone you have been holding at gunpoint is a transition from deadly force to hand-to-hand. Handcuffing requires at least two free hands (more is better; I like the odds when the ratio reaches at least 10:2).
Kevin
I think if you re-read my posts you'll find that I have not suggested anyone physically "cuff" another unless that BG was incapacitated to the degree that you felt comfortable doing so, or unless immediately necessary for some other reason.
Kevin
- Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:26 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Here's a sad story. Is there a lesson?
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You are absolutely correct on that point.flintknapper wrote:IMHO it is desirable to have more than one tool or skill.
I think something that has been overlooked in this discussion is the fact that handcuffing someone you have been holding at gunpoint is a transition from deadly force to hand-to-hand. Handcuffing requires at least two free hands (more is better; I like the odds when the ratio reaches at least 10:2).
If you transition from gunpoint to handcuffing, what are you going to do with your gun? Do you have a retention holster? Would you be wearing it while responding to a 3 a.m. break-in?
Although you're no more likely to be carrying a good OC spray than you are to be wearing a Level III retention holster, this would be a good scenario to play Huck Finn: grab the OC, and paint him like a picket fence!
Secure whatever weapon he might have had, then take care of BG#2, upstairs with darling daughter. Having taken care of BG#2, assume that BG#1 is still a threat, and assume a defensive posture.
Yes, yes... it's likely that BG#1 is still thrashing around downstairs, or perhaps he's found or created an exit. But, he could be one of those who are quick to recover, and he could be looking for revenge. Don't assume he's no longer a threat.
This was bit of a ramble... but how can you discuss the hypothetical without rambling?
Kevin