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Wildscar: yes, thanks.
Gary: agreed, definitely. Here is the place to talk about the how and the why, not the street!
I see your point about the "sociopath." not much you can do with them, that I know of.

G.C.Montgomery wrote:You don't have time to decide whether or not this is just a "kid" who thinks the world is one big GTA game or if the monster before you is a full-blown, narcissistic, sociopath who has decided he will take what he wants from this world, when he wants it, how he wants it and does not care who has to die to get it.

I was intending to mean that those two examples are one and the same.
of course, I agree that you do not have time to consider anything save for what is directly in front of you at that moment.

I was saying, or at least intending to say that I would almost consider a punk kid more dangerous, because they have no idea how much bull hits the fan because of these types of incidents.
He may not have any clue how shooting someone will affect him psychologically, whereas most of us have considered that.

I believe we are on the same side of the argument, however I fear my message is not making it from my brain to my fingers

wouldn't be the first time....

thing is, with a kid that young, they may have NO idea the consequences of their actions! they may be just going through the motions they've seen their friends, "mentors" do. Or more likely, the actions of some GrandTheftAuto mentality.

for both of you that don't know, GTA is a video game...

this is not a rationalization for justification point I'm making. what I'm saying is that a kid that young imo is not going to have the grasp on "This is forever" that an adult will.
to me, this makes them more dangerous.

they may believe that the "show" ends after the bullets fly, whereas a mature (although still criminally inclined) person may not be inclined to bring the gun into "service."

IMO YMMV, IIRC IANAL.