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Thanks Pawpaw. I never could get the TABC site to work for me. So not legal, but you have a [probably] solid defense.

rssecurity

I did look it up, but couldn't get the TABC to return anything. I tried enabling pop-ups for their site, but still got nothing. Info in case anyone wants to try is:

Liquid Lounge
3342 Chimney Rock
Houston, TX 77056

Looking at the page I linked, there is this note: "Please ensure your sign prints according to statutory requirements i.e. size and/or color.". This makes me think there may be some requirements for a valid 51% sign just as there are for 30.06/30.07 signs.

I've dug some more and come back to the not valid, but you could still take the ride. Of course, if a cop hates you, you could take a ride for eating a ham sandwich.

According to Sec. 46.035, b (1) -- the "you can't carry here" -- :

On the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;

However, k, same section, states:

It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (b)(1) that the actor was not given effective notice under Section 411.204, Government Code.

So what does Sec 411.204 say? Well,

(a) A business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the business premises a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c)...

(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in both English and Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises. The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height and must include on its face the number "51" printed in solid red at least five inches in height. The sign shall be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

rssecurity

I came across what appears at first glance to be a 51% sign, and therefore off-limits to us LTC folk. But on closer inspection, I'm not so sure.

I couldn't find any other signs and except for the door, all the windows are covered up. Looking at the TABC site, http://www.tabc.texas.gov/publications/index.asp#signs it appears to be an invalid sign. A quick search found some more signs with this language and without the 51%, but they had the TABC info at the bottom, something these clearly lack.

Assuming I actually did want to go in, which I don't, is this a valid sign? I'm leaning towards NO, but wouldn't mind a second opinion. Perhaps this is an old version???

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