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by imkopaka
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:03 pm
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Topic: City ordnance
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Re: City ordnance

mojo84 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
SewTexas wrote:I typically have some difficulty reading these things, but I can usually figure them out....this one seems overly, I don't know, messy?

7. sort of seems like it's saying: "LTCs, follow the law." maybe?

c. looks like it's saying: "it's the City Manager's job to post the signs, if you have a complaint, call him."
They may not actually conflict with one another, but it's still a problem.

7 is saying that LTC's are exempt from the ordinance regarding firearms. C is saying that the City Manager is supposed to post signage saying firearms aren't allowed. These do not necessarily conflict, but C is instructing the City Manager to violate state law, which is a problem. Until the City Manager actually posts signs, then I don't think a violation has occurred, however.

Also, as mentioned up-thread, this ordinance conflicts with state law regarding the unlicensed carry of long guns.

I might agree if (c) didn't say "whether by a licensee or not, is prohibited".

There's the rub.
by imkopaka
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:10 am
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Re: City ordnance

I was actually looking at (c).
(c) The city manager shall cause notice to be posted on all city premises that entry or remaining thereon while carrying a firearm, whether by a licensee or not, is prohibited.
This sounds an awful lot like unlawful exclusion of a license holder. "All city premises" means "administrative buildings, airports, auditorium, animal control buildings, city hall, coliseum, convention center, fire stations, golf courses, gymnasiums, health department buildings, marinas, multi-cultural center, museums, police buildings, recreational centers, senior centers, service center buildings, solid waste buildings, swimming pools, utility system buildings, and warehouses." They have no authority to deem the red areas off-limits to licensees, and only possible authority or partial authority to deem the yellow areas off-limits to licensees.

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