Abraham,
All excellent points, as one can never be absolutely sure of what's happening in a situation like that. It's times like those where training comes into play, such as weapon safety rule #5: know your target and what lies beyond it. Knowing your target includes knowing that he IS a target. While you may get it wrong, there's a good chance that if you're observant, know your tools, know the rules of engagement (use of force laws, non-lethal steps, intimidation, notifying police, etc), and apply common sense, you'll get it right. I would rather try to help and screw it up than do nothing and let an innocent die due to my deliberate indifference.
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- Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:28 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: I got a 30.06 sign removed!
- Replies: 48
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- Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:55 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: I got a 30.06 sign removed!
- Replies: 48
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Re: I got a 30.06 sign removed!
Abraham wrote:Seabear,
Great job and thanks for getting the 30.06 sign removed.
Seabear is spot on.
Please, not all of us are willing to jump into the line of fire to help others. If in the effort to protect me and mine, I happen to help others great, but I'm not a police officer mandated to save the public at large just because I happen to have an LTC and a gun.
You also posted "... the peace of mind that comes from knowing there are people in your store who can and will protect you if the worst should come about and a criminal with a gun comes to do evil.
Please, speak for yourself. "Can and will protect you"?
Nope, I'm not under any obligation to make that come true.
At the risk of being redundant: I chose to get an LTC, training, bought a pistol, ammo and take the time to go the range. If others choose not to, I'm not obligated to save them as they could've gotten an LTC, a gun, training, etc.
If they chose not to, they have to live with the consequences. I'm not a police officer or their on the spot bacon saver.
I think some folks are under the misguided perception us LTCers are quasi-law enforcement.
Not only are we not, we're not morally obligated to save the public at large.
Thank you for the input. I suppose with my background it's easy to forget that not everyone who thinks like me also feels like me. Between corrections and the Marines, I'm very accustomed to the "band of brothers" mentality, where everyone has each others' backs. I would put myself in harms way to stop an active shooter event, even if there was a way for me to get out. I think not only of myself and my family, but the people around me. If I have bullets left it seems awfully selfish and cowardly to run away. I sometimes forget that not everyone has the same background and I do. Not everyone has the same training and experience. Apologies for putting words in anyone's mouth!
- Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:43 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: I got a 30.06 sign removed!
- Replies: 48
- Views: 14972
I got a 30.06 sign removed!
Here in Lamesa, we only have two grocery stores. I was dismayed when I discovered that one of them, Claiborne's Thriftway, erected 30.06 and 30.07 signs at the beginning of the year. Obviously I'm not going to give my business to someone who won't let me carry, but I couldn't just stop going. I had to make sure they knew I wasn't going, and that they understood why. I sent the attached letter to the owner and a week later the 30.06 sign came down! Feel free to alter and use this letter to your liking, and maybe you can start affecting change where you live!
Before you ask: yes, I did support their choice to restrict open carry. As a student of business I am beginning to understand the factors that go into a decision like that. While I would never restrict legal carry in a business I owned, I understand the desire to accommodate the customers who are uncomfortable around guns. It was a business decision. It wasn't personal. On the other hand, restricting concealed carry does not benefit anyone and it makes an enemy of every legal gun carrier. If you want to remove the language from the letter that marginalizes their decision to restrict open carry, feel free.
Before you ask: yes, I did support their choice to restrict open carry. As a student of business I am beginning to understand the factors that go into a decision like that. While I would never restrict legal carry in a business I owned, I understand the desire to accommodate the customers who are uncomfortable around guns. It was a business decision. It wasn't personal. On the other hand, restricting concealed carry does not benefit anyone and it makes an enemy of every legal gun carrier. If you want to remove the language from the letter that marginalizes their decision to restrict open carry, feel free.