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by Jusme
Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:28 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO
Replies: 32
Views: 6881

Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

bbhack wrote:
Liberty wrote:This raises a couple of questions for me.

How can we as potential victims prevent this type of stuff from happening?

Who is the the biggest threat to our and our families safety, the good guys or the thug home invaders? These days I find the Government a bigger threat to my safety, and my stuff than the bad guys, I have some means to protect myself from the bad guys. I am not so sure how to best protect the myself from murderous and thieving government officials.
If you're active on social media, and have ever engaged or been threatened by a psychopath, you should let the cops or sheriff know that swatting is possible. Same if you have a psycho relative or other connection. Chief can let the SWAT team know, and they might just remember it. Or not. Cheap insurance.
That sounds good in theory, and may work for smaller municipalities, but, in larger urban areas, I can't see how preemptive, forewarning would be effective. Secondly, that thought process, requires the potential victim, to know that there is a possibility, of this type of occurance. From the sketchy details, in this report, it sounds like a non-involved, vindictive person, made the call, with no direct, true info. There is no way to know, who might have an axe to grind, in every situation. The victim, may not have even known all of the details, and simply, allowed his daughter to stay, based on limited info. Which is perfectly understandable. I know that if my daughter came to me and said, I need to stay here, with my kids, for a while, there would be no hesitation on my part, and I would only inquire, as far as she was willing to disclose.

The fault lies with the department, who received the call, and evidently didn't question its validity, and responded enforce.

How can this type of thing be avoided? Get involved, in all decisions, regarding police chiefs, sheriff elections, and anyone else who makes these type of decisions. They all work for us, despite what they may think. If there are officers, who are overstepping their authority, do everything you can, to get them removed.
by Jusme
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO
Replies: 32
Views: 6881

Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Lots of things don't make sense about this story. A lot can be blamed on poor reporting, but as a former LEO, welfare checks, even where bodily harm is claimed, never meant that a "team" of officers, surrounding a dark house in the wee hours of the morning.

If they had truly knocked on the door, or rang the bell, someone would have moved that direction, to at least find out who was there. But if they were creeping around outside making unidentifiable noises, near windows, the natural response from a homeowner, would be to arm himself, and possibly point a gun in the direction of the noise.

There will need to be a lot if questions answered, regarding this entire incident, starting with the original call, and the response, by law enforcement.

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